The Complete Biblical Library

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) said:

DAL said:

What will be the price of the complete Biblical library? I tried the search button but nothing showed up.  I'm interested in finding out the price.

We haven't announced prices for any WS titles, so you wouldn't find them on that page.

The first announcement of pricing is likely to be when a product page for the title shows up at logos.com. 

No pressure and I want to reemphasize that Logos' doing great and fast on this migration business. But just to let you know that a Logos competitor is offering a WORDsearch crossgrade at cost, which includes Complete Biblical Library. I must say I'm very tempted. It will be great to know the price of this from Logos soon to help us make this decision.

May I suggest putting them on something like the prepub so that at least we know the price of this package and can preorder it even if it is not ready to release now?

DAL said:

The Complete Biblical Library is missing some stuff from the competition.  I own it along with the Hebrew and Greek dictionaries.  The grammar and CBL interlinear won’t be produced in the competition.  The Gospel Harmony/Parallels didn’t get separated, but it’s included at the end of the NT resource.

Maybe Logos can give us a full CBL even if we already have gospel harmonies, grammars and interlinears.  A few more won’t hurt us 👍😁👌

DAL

I saw you complained to them about this in their forum! I'm curious about that too.

Do you have the "complete" version say from WORDsearch or hardcopy? Their claim is that the interlinear and the parallel is already a functionality provided by their software so they don't digitalize them. Did you try comparing them?

I had a hardcopy CBL NT but no longer have it now. (I tried to replace it by equivalent but better resources in Logos.) But I know another brother who still has a NT copy so may be I can take images of a few pages of both feature for comparison. For interlinear I think the CBL uses the TR as main greek text? I forgot what's in the interlinear but probably an original word, then a "reference no." to their dict, then morphology, and may be an English word? While missing it is not really "complete", but it seems to me that there's nothing missed when using other tools? For Gospel parallel may be different people has different interpretation so may be more differences there?

By the way, over the years since I started this thread, I've replaced CBL by equivalences in Logos. I've found that the NIDNTTE & NIDOTTE (and the older version before that) is functionally similar to CBL's dictionary (which is the main reason I love CBL) but better. Later I've read a comment on CBL in "the New Testament Commentary Survey, 6th ed" which makes me further avoid the commentary section. You can read some insights higher up in this thread too on CBL's downfall. It is something very ambitious and would be a very useful complete, standalone version as a hardcopy. Unfortunately (or fortunately) the digital caught on and with softwares multiple resources from different publishers can be put together in a way that is as complete as CBL is if not more. And since you can cherry pick your resources, the collective completeness is often better than CBL itself.

But I still missed the CBL dictionary very much and has never owned the OT version. So I'm really tempted to buy that from the competition because it seems to be it is very unlikely Logos can make any offer better than that.

By the way, obviously you used both Logos and the competition. What's your take on that? Do you like having 2 different Bible softwares to study at the same time? Are there any lacking in the competition that you wish the resource is in Logos to give you a better time?

I remember when CBL first launched in WS a lot of people from my Church ordered it (and we have a special group discount too.) I recall the launched price is $500 and was considered a very good deal. Back then I spent $300+ on NT and the “collector’s item”-level OT price at more than a grand is not affordable.

fast forward the competitor sold it at $200 at launch this year. Great deal

now the competitor has a deal for WS users to have a collection that CBL is only a tiny portion included, for $200. That collection has many resources I already have in Logos (which is good so that I need less jumping back) and a lot that I don’t own already. Had the previous deals good deals this is a steal.

The only thing I hesitated is if it is good long term to have 2 different libraries across 2 very different softwares. I tend to think it is good to diversify. That’s why I asked about the experience.