Hebrew Greek

When I follow Morris Proctor’s Quickstart for Logos 8 Video 13 and click on the word Meditate in my downloaded logos software, nothing happens. My Bible Word Study seems to be fixed on the word Yahweh. I have closed the search icon, and have, Bible Word Study, the ESV Bible and the Enhanced Browns Driver Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon all set to A. Do you have any suggestions on how I can fix this problem, especially since this is one of the sections I will use most. Thankyou.

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Kevin A

Hi James, welcome to the forum [Y]

I cannot watch that video but if you are trying to click a word in the bible and have it open in the BWS then there are few things we can check.

Which base packages/features do you own? I believe you need a reverse interlinear to lookup from the bible. https://www.logos.com/product/154150/the-english-standard-version-with-reverse-interlinear is the ESV one, are you showing as owning this? This would come with the starter base package and above.

Did you double click the word?

Under Tools --> Program settings, in the Text Display subsection, there is an option to modify 'Double Click', is yours set to 'Look Up' ?

Which bible and passage are you trying to look up?

I won't be able to answer myself now as am off to work, but hopefully someone else can.

Cheers

Roy

James,

I tried to replicate your issue. Please see the attached image. How does "your" setting read? If you changed it to something other than all passages or something other than a range that would include the book of Joshua, that "May" be your issue.

Hope this may help you out.

James Mason

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1121767#Comment_1121767

Hi Kevin

Thankyou for your welcome and reply (I am new to Logos). I have Logos 8 and am using the ESV Bible and the Enhanced Browns Driver Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon, which the Morris Proctor’s Quickstart training video said was what he used, so I presumed these would work for everything on the Logos 8 Software, there was no mention of a reverse interlinear Bible. I don’t mind purchasing one (thanks for the link), but want to make sure this is the actual problem first.

I did go to the tool’s menu, and yes. it is set to ‘Look Up,’ I did try double clicking on the word meditate (Joshua 1:8), but when I do it switches, ‘The Bible Word Study’ panel to, ‘GODS WORD Translation’ panel which gives me a list of the meanings of various words, though this is good, I want it to stay on, ‘The Bible Word Study panel.’ Should it be set on something other than Look Up?

James Mason

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1121772#Comment_1121772

Hi Roy

Thank you for your reply, I did check, and yes, it is set on All Passages

Roy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1121930#Comment_1121930

Try using the Lexham English Bible instead of the ESV. I "Believe" that Faithlife gives you the Lexham English Bible/Reverse Interlinear bible along with LOGOS Basic (which, if you just came over from WrodSearch, I think they gave you a modified version of-- but don't quote me on that!)

Morris uses the ESV most of the time in his demos as he says he really likes that version. You do not have to use that one, just one with the RI capability (and the LEB has that).

James Mason

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1121934#Comment_1121934

Thankyou so much Roy, the LEB fixed the problem (I had never heard of RI Bibles), do you know how how many books there should be in Logos 8 Library, I got a quick message saying some are missing, I want to buy some, but not until I know my Library has all the books it should have.

Kevin A

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1121930#Comment_1121930

Good news it is working for you now James. [Y] I was just looking at the Lexham Bible Dictionary today and was commenting to someone just how incredible it is that this is a free resource also along with the Lexham English Bible and the Faithlife Study Bible.

NB I would not recommend purchasing the ESV reverse interlinear direct from that link I provided, it is much much better value to purchase a base package that includes it.

Roy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122007#Comment_1122007

the LEB fixed the problem (I had never heard of RI Bibles)

Fantastic! Glad you are now able to do what you were wanting to do.

If case you have not figured it out yet, RI stands for "Reverse Interlinear".

An Interlinear Bible has the original language text on the top with a word for word translation below each original word.

This can make the translation hard to read as I am sure you know other languages will not likely have the same word ordering/syntax that english would have. When it comes to Hebrew it gets even worse since Hebrew reads right to left.

A Reverse Interlinear flips that around. The Target language is on top (in my case that would be English) using the text from a regular English Bible (in this case the LEB) and places the original language underneath. This way you can read regular text and see the original Hebrew or Greek word underneath.

In a Logos RI, the original language (OL) can be toggled on or off as desired, but even when it is off the OL is still there in the background making the things (Bible/Word Study linking) like what you saw in the video possible.

do you know how how many books there should be in Logos 8 Library

No I am sorry, but I do not know. On the Logos side you should get every thing on install. The only things that would come in piece-mill would be your WordSearch resources when Logos can make them available.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122064#Comment_1122064

places the original language underneath. This way you can read regular text and see the original Hebrew or Greek word underneath.

You may notice a small orange number subscripted under the original manuscript words. This is the word order if you were reading in the original language.

Roy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122068#Comment_1122068

You may notice a small orange number subscripted under the original manuscript words. This is the word order if you were reading in the original language.

Thank you Dave. I am aware of the word order indicators (although I tend to ignore them [H].)

I guess I was just trying to explain the difference between Interlinear and Reverse-Interlinear. I remember the first time I saw a paper-printed version of an OT Interlinear. I thought Good Grief. How can you even tell what is going on here! (This was a few number of years ago back in the 80's).

I'm not much better now but at least I kind-of have an idea of what I am looking at.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122011#Comment_1122011

I would not recommend purchasing the ESV reverse interlinear direct from that link I provided, it is much much better value to purchase a base package that includes it.

Logos 8 Fundamentals => https://www.logos.com/product/166518/logos-8-fundamentals includes ESV with RI's for Old and New Testaments.

RI allows Visual Filter highlighting of original language morphology (way to visualize Greek verbal expression)

Logos Wiki Extended Tips for Highlighting and Visual Filters includes:

Examples of visual filters

Keep Smiling [:)]

James Mason

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122011#Comment_1122011

thanks Kevin

James Mason

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122064#Comment_1122064

thanks for that info Roy

James Mason

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1121934#Comment_1121934

If I only remember 2-3 words of a Scripture, what’s the best way to find the verse, at the moment, I type the words that I know, with quotation marks at each end into the Go Box and select, The Lexham English Bible or Basic. Is this the best way, or is there another way to do the same thing whereby once the verse is found, it is easy to find it in my other prioritized Bible versions.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123427#Comment_1123427

If I only remember 2-3 words of a Scripture, what’s the best way to find the verse

One idea is Bible Search of a collection using 2-3 words without quotes to find verses that have all the words: e.g. everything thanks

Screen shot shows Fuzzy Bible Search (needs Online connection) plus Bible Collection in Grid having squares filled-in where all words were found.

Keep Smiling [:)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1123427#Comment_1123427

If I only remember 2-3 words of a Scripture, what’s the best way to find the verse, at the moment, I type the words that I know, with quotation marks at each end into the Go Box and select, The Lexham English Bible or Basic. Is this the best way, or is there another way to do the same thing whereby once the verse is found, it is easy to find it in my other prioritized Bible versions.

One of many reasons to have lots of Bibles. And if perhaps you forgot to die 4 centuries ago (Hebrews ... angels!), Logos has you covered, complete with terrible spelling. I don't have my Logos online, so 'Bibles' works great.