Help on Bible Concordance

Wild Eagle
Wild Eagle Member Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I am trying to use Concordance tool but I can't figure out why it behaves in certain ways. I use ESV, Lemma, in All Passages :

1. If I select Part of Speech "Noun" and the Language "Hebrew", I can see all nouns in Hebrew. If I change the order and select first "Hebrew", the Part of Speech is grayed out, and I can't pick "noun" anymore? Why?

2. CTRL/CMD F for search, cannot look up English words, except lemma's. How do I find English words using lemma through the search in concordance?

"No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying." Leonard Ravenhill 

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,826

    Wild Eagle said:

    1. If I select Part of Speech "Noun" and the Language "Hebrew", I can see all nouns in Hebrew. If I change the order and select first "Hebrew", the Part of Speech is grayed out, and I can't pick "noun" anymore? Why?

    I don't see this behaviour (with Logos 8.16 on Mac). Either order ends up with the same set of results.

    What version of Logos do you have and on which platform?

    Wild Eagle said:

    2. CTRL/CMD F for search, cannot look up English words, except lemma's. How do I find English words using lemma through the search in concordance?

    I don't believe this is possible in the Concordance.

    I would use a Bible Search finding where the lemma INTERSECTS the English term

  • Wild Eagle
    Wild Eagle Member Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122776#Comment_1122776

    Graham Criddle said:

    I don't see this behaviour (with Logos 8.16 on Mac). Either order ends up with the same set of results.

    What version of Logos do you have and on which platform?

    Logos Bible Software 8.16
    8.16.0.0002

    Windows 10 Pro, V. 2004

    Graham Criddle said:

    Wild Eagle said:

    2. CTRL/CMD F for search, cannot look up English words, except lemma's. How do I find English words using lemma through the search in concordance?

    I don't believe this is possible in the Concordance.

    I would use a Bible Search finding where the lemma INTERSECTS the English term

    If this is so, then unfortunately this feature is not that useful. I want to find the word X which is mentioned more that 1000 times comparing to word Y and see how much it was mentioned. 

    "No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying." Leonard Ravenhill 

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,826
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1122780#Comment_1122780

    Wild Eagle said:

    Windows 10 Pro, V. 2004

    I could reproduce what you are describing on my Windows platform - so it looks like a Windows-specific issue.

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    Wild Eagle said:

    I am trying to use Concordance tool but I can't figure out why it behaves in certain ways. I use ESV, Lemma, in All Passages :

    1. If I select Part of Speech "Noun" and the Language "Hebrew", I can see all nouns in Hebrew. If I change the order and select first "Hebrew", the Part of Speech is grayed out, and I can't pick "noun" anymore? Why?

    2. CTRL/CMD F for search, cannot look up English words, except lemma's. How do I find English words using lemma through the search in concordance?

    This is a bug and I've filed a bug report.

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  • Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)
    Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) MVP Posts: 23,137

    Wild Eagle said:

    I am trying to use Concordance tool but I can't figure out why it behaves in certain ways. I use ESV, Lemma, in All Passages :

    Knowing original language has Reverse Interlinear alignment quirks in ESV, tried replicating Concordance issue using Lexham Hebrew Bible (LHB)

    Selecting Hebrew first works as expected: can choose part of speech. Also noted LHB has variations (Kethiv/Qere) added by scribes.

    Wild Eagle said:

    2. CTRL/CMD F for search, cannot look up English words, except lemma's. How do I find English words using lemma through the search in concordance?

    Replicated Concordance find being useless using Logos 8.17 (8.17.0.0011) on Windows 10 Pro 2004.

    An alternative is searching LHB for English with ESV in Verses view showing Reverse Interlinear lemma highlighting of corresponding lemma

    Keep Smiling [:)]

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