Copy Bible Verses Customization Question

Jerry Smith
Jerry Smith Member Posts: 301 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is it possible to change the Short Passage Reference (shortpassageref) tag from a semicolon (:) between Chapter and Verse to a period (.), e.g. Jn1.1?

Thanks, Jerry

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    This should do it: [FullBookName] [ChapterNum].[VerseNum]

    However, the [VerseNum] tag isn't working for me (4.0c Beta 1)... I thought they had fixed this, I'm off to double check/bug report.

  • Jerry Smith
    Jerry Smith Member Posts: 301 ✭✭

    Thanks . . . another question . . . is there a "ShortBookName" command? Eg., Jn instead of John, Ro instead of Romans?

    Thanks, Jerry

  • Jerry Smith
    Jerry Smith Member Posts: 301 ✭✭

    Made the modifications and am getting . . .

    [FullBookName] [ChapterNum].[VerseNum].

    10 Then he said to them, “Go, eat of the fat, drink of the sweet, and send portions to him who has nothing prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not be grieved, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

    Thanks, Jerry

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,353

    I thought of [ShortBookName] [ChapterNum].[VerseNum] but it does not work in the Header!  Hopefully others will know.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Jerry Smith
    Jerry Smith Member Posts: 301 ✭✭


    I thought of [ShortBookName] [ChapterNum].[VerseNum] but it does not work in the Header!  Hopefully others will know.


    Thanks, Dave . . . I tried that one too . . . at first glance this looked like one of those "quick fixes" . . .

    Jerry

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,571

    I thought of [ShortBookName] [ChapterNum].[VerseNum] but it does not work in the Header!  Hopefully others will know.

    I would have sworn this had been fixed. Aaargh

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,353

    MJ. Smith said:

    I would have sworn this had been fixed. Aaargh

    You know what I would do - go create a Bug Report[:D]

    Dave
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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:


    I thought of [ShortBookName] [ChapterNum].[VerseNum] but it does not work in the Header!  Hopefully others will know.

    I would have sworn this had been fixed. Aaargh


    What was fixed (as of 4.0c Beta 1) was the bug I reported which said that [FullBookName], [ShortBookName], and [ChapterNum] were not working when they appeared in the header. It hadn't occurred to me to test [VerseNum] because I'd never use a header when copying just one verse, but I suppose some people might.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,353

    What was fixed (as of 4.0c Beta 1) was the bug I reported which said that [FullBookName], [ShortBookName], and [ChapterNum] were not working when they appeared in the header. It hadn't occurred to me to test [VerseNum]

    But all the possibilities should have occurred to someone in Logos!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Mickey Ellis
    Mickey Ellis Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    Yep,

    I discovered the same bug today, and found this thread pertaining to the subject. 

    I couldn't tell from the thread whether someone had reported the bug to Logos.  Has someone?  Anyone have an idea how long it might take for it to get fixed?

    Thanks,

    me

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,353

    The suggestion/bug has been raised and discussed at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14728/112925.aspx

    We might have to take further action as there has been no Logos comment.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • David Gullick
    David Gullick Member Posts: 289 ✭✭

    While we're on the topic of CBV, how do I change it so that the closing speechmarks aren't spaced from the last character?




    <!--
    p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
    {mso-style-unhide:no;
    mso-style-qformat:yes;
    mso-style-parent:"";
    margin-top:0in;
    margin-right:0in;
    margin-bottom:10.0pt;
    margin-left:0in;
    line-height:115%;
    mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
    font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
    p.MsoFootnoteText, li.MsoFootnoteText, div.MsoFootnoteText
    {mso-style-noshow:yes;
    mso-style-priority:99;
    margin:0in;
    margin-bottom:.0001pt;
    mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
    font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
    -->

    Your righteousness is like the mountains of God; Your judgments are like a great deep. O Lord, You preserve man and beast. ” (Psalm 36:6, NASB95)  Should be "...and beast."

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  • David Gullick
    David Gullick Member Posts: 289 ✭✭

    Why we're on CBV, how do I change the format so that the closing speechmark isn't spaced from the last character?


    Your righteousness is like the mountains of God; Your judgments are like a great deep. O Lord, You preserve man and beast. ” (Psalm 36:6, NASB95)  Should be    "....beast." and not "...beast. "

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    Lenovo laptop E520 i7-2640M, 2.8GHz 8G Ram, 2G Graphics

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    While we're on the topic of CBV, how do I change it so that the closing speechmarks aren't spaced from the last character?

    Your righteousness is like the mountains of God; Your judgments are like a great deep. O Lord, You preserve man and beast. ” (Psalm 36:6, NASB95)  Should be "...and beast."


    This appears to be a problem only with certain versions (I've confirmed it with NASB95, ESV, LEB, and NKJV). But when I used the Quotation CBV style and copied from TNIV, the extra space wasn't in there between the end of the sentence and the closing quotation mark. The interesting thing is that TNIV is my preferred Bible. However when I changed my preferred Bible to ESV and tried it again, it still had the superflous space. This seems like a bug to me. I will report it as such and refer back to this thread.

    UPDATE:

    Further info, I tried copying a different verse (I tried, Gen 1:1 and John 1:1) in TNIV, and the extra space did appear for those ones, but it doesn't for Psalm 36:6, or any other verse in Psalms that I randomly tried. Weird.

    I looked at the Quotation style definition, and here it is:

    %NoCharFormatting
    %NoRedLetter
    %NoFootnotes
    %NoCitation

    =Header
    <p>“<i>

    =ForEachVerse
    [VerseText]

    =Footer
    </i>” ([FullPassageRef], [Version])</p>

    I wondered whether maybe it could be reconstructed to fix the problem. I made a new style My Quotation like this:

    %NoCharFormatting
    %NoRedLetter
    %NoFootnotes
    %NoCitation

    =Header
    <p>“

    =ForEachVerse
    <i>[VerseText]</i>

    =Footer
    ” ([FullPassageRef], [Version])</p>

    The problem still occurred. I also played around with putting some text immediately after [VerseText] inside the italic HTML markers.

    It seems that the extra space is being added when the token [VerseText] is replaced. I don't know why it doesn't happen for certain verses in the TNIV.

    UPDATE: Reported on wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_Extra_space_included_at_end_of_replacement_for_[VerseText]_token_in_Copy_Bible_Verses

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    The suggestion/bug has been raised and discussed at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14728/112925.aspx

    We might have to take further action as there has been no Logos comment.


    Have just posted another bug on the wiki and referred back to both of these threads. Here's the report I filed: http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_Further_fixes_needed_to_replacement_tokens_in_CBV

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,353

    Dave
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  • Fred Greco
    Fred Greco Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Is there a way to have interleaved versions?  E.g.

     

    Acts 1:1 ESV

    Acts 1:1 NA27

    Acts 1:2 ESV

    Acts 1:2 NA27

    Fred Greco
    Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
    Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a way to have interleaved versions?

    You could sort of get that using Text Comparison, with Horizontal Layout (choose that from the panel menu):

    image

    The text in this panel is selectable and you can right click on it and copy/paste to Word or wherever.

    EDIT: If you paste the above into Word, it would come out in a table, but then you can do Convert Table to Text and it will come out interleaved (but without the full verse references and version in front of each verse):

    English Standard Version

    Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, 27th Edition

    Mt 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

    Mt 1:1 Βίβλος γενέσεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ υἱοῦ Δαυὶδ υἱοῦ Ἀβραάμ.

    2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

    2 Ἀβραὰμ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰσαάκ, Ἰσαὰκ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰακώβ, Ἰακὼβ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰούδαν καὶ τοὺς ἀδελφοὺς αὐτοῦ,

    3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,

    3 Ἰούδας δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Φάρες καὶ τὸν Ζάρα ἐκ τῆς Θαμάρ, Φάρες δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἑσρώμ, Ἑσρὼμ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἀράμ,

    4 and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon,

    4 Ἀρὰμ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἀμιναδάβ, Ἀμιναδὰβ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ναασσών, Ναασσὼν δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Σαλμών,

    5 and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse,

    5 Σαλμὼν δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Βόες ἐκ τῆς Ῥαχάβ, Βόες δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰωβὴδ ἐκ τῆς Ῥούθ, Ἰωβὴδ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Ἰεσσαί,

     

  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭

    This seems like a bug to me. I will report it as such and refer back to this thread.

    This is a known issue. I've added this thread to the open case. Thanks.

  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭

    Update:

    The other replacement tokens will not be supported in header and footer text.  The thinking is that [FullPassageRef] and [ShortPassageRef] make more sense in that context than [FullVerseRef] and [ShortVerseRef]. And [VerseNum] is not supported because ranges cannot be reasonably rendered. An example: John 1:50-2:2. Rendering "50-2" is not useful.

  • Mickey Ellis
    Mickey Ellis Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    So...will I ever be able to customize the format to be like the following:

    (Mt 1): 1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.  2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    So...will I ever be able to customize the format to be like the following:

    (Mt 1): 1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.  2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

    Try this code


    =Header
    <p><b>([ShortBookName] [ChapterNum])</b>: =ForEachVerse
     [VerseNum] [VerseText]

    =Footer
    </p>

  • Mickey Ellis
    Mickey Ellis Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    The problem is that when I enter this code, it doesn't recognize the reserved words.  You'll see what I mean by the result:

    ([ShortBookName] [ChapterNum]): 1A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham: 2Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

    Instead of putting (Mt 1), it puts ([ShortBookName] [ChapterNum])

    Any ideas?

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Instead of putting (Mt 1), it puts ([ShortBookName] [ChapterNum])

    Any ideas?

    Ah, I forgot, this was a bug that was fixed in 4.0c Beta 1, sorry about that. This will work when 4.0c is released (or you could decide to join us in Beta testing).

  • Mickey Ellis
    Mickey Ellis Member Posts: 13 ✭✭

    Thanks for the invite, but I already have too much on my plate [:S]

    Any idea when 4.0c will be released?

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the invite, but I already have too much on my plate Tongue Tied

    Any idea when 4.0c will be released?

    Not really, 4.0b was a really long Beta cycle and Logos has said that 4.0c would be shorter, but they haven't indicate how much shorter.