Anyone have any insights on when we might see the next beta of 4.0c?
We haven't yet decided if it will be tomorrow (right before the long weekend!) or next week.
Anyone have any insights on when we might see the next beta of 4.0c? We haven't yet decided if it will be tomorrow (right before the long weekend!) or next week.
TOMORROW!! Please, please, please! I'm assuming the collections-crash bug will be one of the fixes...I hope!
If its not going to be tomorrow could you at least give a spoiler for any new feature that may be coming in it, if any....
I say tomorrow with a large disclaimer warning for the faint of heart.
Bradley,
I hope that you are not seriously considering releasing the Beta before the long weekend.
In my opinion, a release is not ready until there are the people in place to deal with problems arising from unexpected critical flaws. As there will be no one in place over the weekend, this Beta is not ready for release.
Come on Bradley, What could possibly go wrong?
A beta version is unsupported software (almost by definition). If we do release it tomorrow, it's because we consider fixing the known bugs (that are preventing current beta testers from using the software) to be a greater benefit than the risk of introducing new bugs.
Installing the update is optional; if you require Logos employees to be "in place to deal with problems arising from unexpected critical flaws" then I suggest you simply avoid installing it until Monday morning (PDT).
I don't usually post in response to opinions, but seriously, have you done beta testing before? (1) You install the updates when you want and (2) You don't beta test on your "production" machines. If you do beta test on your work machines (I do) then you just need to be prepared for the consequences. After all... Logos writes in their Beta disclaimer:
IMPORTANT: Logos 4 Beta releases are beta software. They may corrupt your computer or delete your data. The Passage Guide, searching, or viewing books may stop working. We recommend installing Logos 4 betas only on a dedicated testing machine.
If you ask me all of those would be considered "critical" flaws. So basically, if you don't want to risk encountering a critical flaw you should probably wait until the updates are posted as a release. It seems like sometimes people want to do beta testing just to get software faster and forget that it is a test version, not a preview version.
A beta version is unsupported software (almost by definition). If we do release it tomorrow, it's because we consider fixing the known bugs (that are preventing current beta testers from using the software) to be a greater benefit than the risk of introducing new bugs. Installing the update is optional; if you require Logos employees to be "in place to deal with problems arising from unexpected critical flaws" then I suggest you simply avoid installing it until Monday morning (PDT).
I know Bradley and I will wait.... It just seems that so many Friday releases of resources and of software (Beta and otherwise) have gone bad....
During the Private Beta, most releases were made on a Monday. This allowed any critical flaws to be quickly acknowledged and subsequently eliminated. It seems that it is only since the Public post-release Betas that we have seen so many Friday drops....
Do whatever you will (as you would have anyway)
A beta version is unsupported software (almost by definition). If we do release it tomorrow, it's because we consider fixing the known bugs (that are preventing current beta testers from using the software) to be a greater benefit than the risk of introducing new bugs. Installing the update is optional; if you require Logos employees to be "in place to deal with problems arising from unexpected critical flaws" then I suggest you simply avoid installing it until Monday morning (PDT). I know Bradley and I will wait.... It just seems that so many Friday releases of resources and of software (Beta and otherwise) have gone bad.... During the Private Beta, most releases were made on a Monday. This allowed any critical flaws to be quickly acknowledged and subsequently eliminated. It seems that it is only since the Public post-release Betas that we have seen so many Friday drops.... Do whatever you will (as you would have anyway)
But releasing on a Friday also requires those of us who are afraid of "Friday breakage" to shut off the internet connection for Logos, because the update is automatic. I would humbly suggest that you review the dozens of threads about Friday problems and NOT release it on a Friday. Logos track record on this is less than stellar.
But releasing on a Friday also requires those of us who are afraid of "Friday breakage" to shut off the internet connection for Logos, because the update is automatic.
No, just turn automatic updates off (I always have it set to 'off'). That way Logos notifies you of the update, but won't download it without your permission.
Count me in for a Friday drop if you are ready, Logos. I expect ZERO support on this. I understand it is a Beta, and have read the warnings, etc.
I am amazed that anyone would expect support for a voluntary Beta.
Jerry
