Suggestions: Please, Please Change the new Logos Icon

Samuel
Samuel Member Posts: 172
edited November 21 in English Forum

Just saying the new three color icon is really distracting. It feels cluttered and busy. It would be great to have something more elegant again. 

It also reminds me of the early days of computers when gradients were such low resolution you could see the colors progressing. Yes it looks like the Word icon (which also isn't great) but even that icon is less busy because it doesn't have the magnifying glass/cross icon laying across three color bars.

Would be a great surprise in an update to get back to the last icon or a new one that isn't so jarring :) 

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  • Fábio Silva
    Fábio Silva Member Posts: 41

    To be fair although I think this wouldn't bother me to the point of writing a post complaining about it. But it does at first glance gimme the impression fo being pixelated and low res because of the sharp flag like horizontal bars, I guess what I'm saying is that the background of the logo seems to be tacked on as an aftertought and doesn't blend to the main feature of the LOGO.

    That being said they could paint it pink with fluorescent markings and it wouldn't matter as long as the product is good

    EDIT: Just realised that there are a few different logos, the specific one I'm referring to is the one in the Home Screen of the desktop app.

    Love the design on the base packages though! 

  • Samuel
    Samuel Member Posts: 172

    To be fair although I think this wouldn't bother me to the point of writing a post complaining about it. But it does at first glance gimme the impression fo being pixelated and low res because of the sharp flag like horizontal bars, I guess what I'm saying is that the background of the logo seems to be tacked on as an aftertought and doesn't blend to the main feature of the LOGO.

    EDIT: Just realised that there are a few different logos, the specific one I'm referring to is the one in the Home Screen of the desktop app.

    Yes, the one I'm referring to is the app icon on the Mac. Agreed it is a smooth upgrade and the reason it bugs me is because I spend so much time in Logos. It's a big part of my work day. But, as always, grateful for the tools and resources which help me do my work and dig into the Bible much more efficiently. 

  • James Ogle
    James Ogle Member Posts: 77

    I almost thought someone one was trolling, but then I thought people just complain to hear themselves complain. It could have been way worse this time around, for Logos 9, but it's been pretty quite. So for that I'm thankful.

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭

    Just saying the new three color icon is really distracting. It feels cluttered and busy. It would be great to have something more elegant again. 

    It also reminds me of the early days of computers when gradients were such low resolution you could see the colors progressing. Yes it looks like the Word icon (which also isn't great) but even that icon is less busy because it doesn't have the magnifying glass/cross icon laying across three color bars.

    Would be a great surprise in an update to get back to the last icon or a new one that isn't so jarring :) 

    the 3 bands makes sense in PROCLAIM due to the “law of thirds” when working with graphics, but seems out of place in Logos (unless they are trying to replicate “going deeper”; which a gradient would better portray)

    Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).

  • Samuel
    Samuel Member Posts: 172

    I almost thought someone one was trolling, but then I thought people just complain to hear themselves complain. It could have been way worse this time around, for Logos 9, but it's been pretty quite. So for that I'm thankful.

    I can understand that, but in this case I only had two objectives: 1) make a suggestion and 2)  see if I'm the only one that finds the new icon jarring. 

    Agreed other than that no issues so far other than an unplanned purchase! So far everything is smooth and I am looking forward to discovering the new features. I upgraded but haven't had time to look through the new stuff yet.

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    I can understand that, but in this case I only had two objectives: 1) make a suggestion and 2)  see if I'm the only one that finds the new icon jarring. 

    I know you aren't the only one who finds it jarring (though it doesn't bother me personally). You might want to put up/vote for a suggestion to change it at feedback.faithlife.com. That would tell both you and Faithlife about how many of their customers are bothered by the new logo.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,435

    BTW Anyone know why this comes in upside down?

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.(now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Bill Cook
    Bill Cook Member Posts: 494

    Yes, I too think the new icon is hideous. Perhaps a contest for a designer to come up with one that is more appealing... But, hey, I like the new functionality of the product. And, I agree, if it was a pink icon and chartreuse contrast and the product is great, so be it!

  • Levi Durfey
    Levi Durfey Member Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭

    BTW Anyone know why this comes in upside down?

    It's just you Mike--it's right side up for me--

  • Eli Evans (Logos)
    Eli Evans (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,402

    FWIW, it's a brand tie-in with all the Faithlife products that have (green) tricolor bands. I'll pass this feedback along. 

  • Mason Miller
    Mason Miller Member Posts: 57

    I think the new logo looks great.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,142

    I'm also fine with the new logo ... and have other things I'd rather Faithlife spent resources on.

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  • Samuel
    Samuel Member Posts: 172

    FWIW, it's a brand tie-in with all the Faithlife products that have (green) tricolor bands. I'll pass this feedback along. 

    Thank you! No need to redo it--just having the old one back would be great :) 

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭

    FWIW, it's a brand tie-in with all the Faithlife products that have (green) tricolor bands. I'll pass this feedback along. 

    Thank you! No need to redo it--just having the old one back would be great :) 

    Return your LOGOS 9 package and can keep the LOGOS 8 Icon.

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,442 ✭✭✭

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Bob Pritchett
    Bob Pritchett Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,280

    I'm sorry you don't like the new icon... it's an attempt to make clearer the family connection to all the Faithlife tools. You can see the icons lined up here:

    https://equip.faithlife.com/

    Our logo and icon have changed many times over the years, and each change feels weird and 'wrong' at first, until it doesn't.

    I feel the same way about other companies' logos; it can be fun to search for 'evolution of <brand> logo' on the Internet, and see how much logos do change.

    https://blog.logomyway.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/evolution-ups-logo.jpg

    https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/a1pvg9/microsoft_word_icon_history/

    Fun Fact: Our 'three color bands' for the Faithlife icons pre-date Microsoft Office's adoption of very similar four color bands by a year, as far as I can tell. Though I don't think they were imitating us, fun as that would be. :-) I think it was just "in the air", as so many design trends are.

  • Clifford B. Kvidahl
    Clifford B. Kvidahl Member Posts: 235 ✭✭

    The icon could have been drawn by my 6 year old, just so long as the program works like I need it to.

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,974

    Like the new logo. Let's split the difference keep the three shades of color, and remove the distinct line that separate the colours. Let them fade gradually into each other. 

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • JoshInRI
    JoshInRI Member Posts: 1,940

    This whole string gave me a chuckle.  [:)]

    I will privately dance naked in a linen ephod (see 2 Samuel 6:14) if Faithlife ever commits to making Logos simpler and easier to use.

    Note how underdeveloped the basic menu is or any of my forum posts for further discussion.

    The style of the icon...really?

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    Note how underdeveloped the basic menu is

    What menu are you referring to?

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  • skypeace
    skypeace Member Posts: 251

    If the logo of Logos was intended to fit in with the Faithlife family of products it is a fail. Just make it three shades of green and be done with it. 

    I was excited by the release of Logos 9 but I have to agree with the Original poster that it was a bit of a let down and a concern when the logo first appeared. True that it is not that important of an issue, but it is also true that it is a bit tacky. Shalom

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,795

    I worked in advertising for a time, not terribly long... But my job was making logos. So I tend to notice logos more than most.

    I like the logo.

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  • JoshInRI
    JoshInRI Member Posts: 1,940

    SinNomine.  Jesus gave me a complete makeover when I was born again.

    Thats what Logos Bible software needs too, from the ground up.

    I was referring to the menu that comes up when you start the program. Some would argue that its left as is and not changed much because it allows users to add things etc. 

    I feel those at Faithlife should get a couple of new users eager to use the software in a round table discussion and then video capture just how difficult the software really is to do even the most basic things. 

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,481

    I was referring to the menu that comes up when you start the program

    I'm sorry but I don't know what menu you are referring to. Please clarify - ideally with a screenshot

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭

    the menu that comes up when you start the program.

    But users have MANY different layouts when they start the program.

    May you be referring to the HOME PAGE?

    Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).

  • Josiah Young
    Josiah Young Member Posts: 150 ✭✭✭

    I kind of like the new logo [:)] I wonder if perhaps a better question would be why Logos is still blue when all the rest of Faithlife is green? Kind of sticks out on the equip page since it is the ONLY one that's not green. It otherwise blends in nicely and does seem to help with brand cohesion.

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,442 ✭✭✭

    I feel those at Faithlife should get a couple of new users eager to use the software in a round table discussion and then video capture just how difficult the software really is to do even the most basic things. 

    I used to agree with you, a simpler UI version. And I still agree with you, both the desktop and mobiles really aren't marketable to the broad Christian membership. At church, intro'ing a FL product to a younger person is easy .... the problem being what next. But older folks, OT, etc are the choices to avoid being killed and chopped into little pieces. One at a time. Smiling .. older folks don't appreciate stupidity.

    But the FL train has left the station. Keeps the Spokane folks' families well fed and happy.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭

    I feel those at Faithlife should get a couple of new users eager to use the software in a round table discussion and then video capture just how difficult the software really is to do even the most basic things. 

    People likely feel the same way about Photoshop. Still it dominates the photo editing space.