Theosis
I tried Factbook, Topic, and Theology Guide and I cannot seem to come up with good search results for theosis. Any idea why that would be? Regular search pulls up plenty of sources
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Hmm, that's odd. I can replicate. Seems this word is not tagged in many places in Logos resources, even though it is defined as a Concept in Factbook and is in the Topic Guide. It is not listed as a topic in the Theology Guide at all. A regular search searches the actual text, not the tags.
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Are you able to come up with decent results in Factbook and Topic Guide? I seem to have come up with better results by switch my search term to Deification.
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This is only one of hundreds of examples that belie the native theological terms of those creating the theological vocabulary ... there are some very funny "equations" across vocabulary systems.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Blair Laird said:
Are you able to come up with decent results in Factbook and Topic Guide?
No, like I said, I can replicate your experience.
And I can confirm that Deification gets better results in Facebook, and slightly better results in Topic Guide.
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Hmmm... should the Factbook articles on Theosis and Deification be merged? Exact same thing, just two different terms, one from Greek and the other from Latin.
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Under Theories of Atonement
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• Theosis. This view is closely associated with Eastern Orthodoxy. It posits that the joining of man to divinity is the telos, the completion, of humanity. The cross makes theosis possible by its great act of transfiguration from death to life.
Mark Olivero, “Theories of Atonement,” in Lexham Survey of Theology, ed. Mark Ward et al. (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2018).
Divinization does not occur in the LST ... However, if one side of the company spoke to the other side ...
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DIVINIZATION (Deification · Theosis)Sacred Scripture
OT Ps 32:title–1, 85:2, 51:1–2, 82:title–1, 6, Is 4:2, 2 Sa 12:13, 1 Ch 21:8, Ps 103:12, Pr 10:12, Is 1:16, 43:25, 44:22, Eze 36:25, Mic 7:18
NT 2 Pe 1:3–4, Jn 3:5, 14:23, Tt 3:5, Jn 3:15, 17:21–23, Ro 5:5, 1 Jn 3:9, 2 Co 5:17, Ga 6:15, Eph 4:23, Jn 1:12–18, 1 Co 6:11, Col 1:13, 1 Jn 3:1, Jn 3:36, 4:14, 6:53, 8:44, 10:34, 2 Co 1:21, Jas 1:18, 1 Pe 1:23, Jn 15:1–5, Mt 9:2, 6, 26:28, Lk 7:47, Jn 1:29, 20:23, Ac 3:19, 22:16, Ro 5:18, 8:14–18, 1 Co 1:30, 2 Co 5:19, Eph 1:7, 5:8, Heb 1:3, 1 Pe 4:8, 1 Jn 1:7, 3:14, Jn 17:3, 1 Co 12, 6:15, 19, Ga 4:5–7, Php 1:27Church Teaching
Catechism CCC 460, 51, 260, 1212, 1265, 1692, 1721, 1812, 1988, 1996; Index “Divinity: participation of man in divinity of God”, “Nature: divine nature: man is a partaker of the”
Denzinger DS 1528–1531, 1561, 1545–1547, 780, 807–808, 904, 960*, 1513, 1921*, 2205*, 1515–1516, 1524
Roman Catechism RC 2.2.49
Vatican II DV 2Ecclesiastical Writers
St. Irenaeus Adv. Haer. 3.9.1
St. Athanasius Ath., De inc. 54
St. Augustine De grat. Christi 1.13.14, Contra duas epist. Pelag. 1.13.26, Augustine, Serm. (Ben.) 128 .1
Pseudo-Dionysius Dionys., Eccl. hier. 1.3
St. Thomas Aquinas STh., I-II q.110 a.2–a.4, II-II q.23 a.2, q.24 a.3 ad 2, III q.2 a.10 ad 1See also: Sanctification; Salvation; New Life; Sanctifying Grace
Andrew Jones et al., eds., Catholic Topical Index (Bellingham, WA: Verbum, 2013).and they would see why putting it under atonement feels so odd
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ATONEMENTSacred Scripture
OT Is 53:4, 10, Ex 32:32, Job 1:5
NT Ro 3:21–26, Eph 1:7, Col 1:13–14, 1 Ti 2:6, Mt 20:28, 1 Co 6:20, Ga 3:13, Eph 2:13, Heb 2:14, 1 Pe 1:18–19, 3:18, 1 Jn 2:2, 2 Co 12:15, 2 Ti 4:6, Mt 3:12, 18:8, 25:46, 26:28, Mk 10:45, 16:16, Jn 3:16, 10:15, 11:51, Ac 3:21, Ro 5:10, 12, 18, 20, 7:1, 2 Co 5:15, 19, 21, Ga 4:5, Eph 1:10, Php 2:9, Col 1:20, 2:15, 2 Th 1:9, 2 Ti 1:10, Tt 2:14, Heb 2:9, 5:9, 9:12, 1 Pe 2:24, 2 Pe 1:10, 1 Jn 1:7, 4:10, Re 5:9, Ga 6:2, Col 1:24, Re 6:9Church Teaching
Catechism CCC 1992; Index “Atonement”
Denzinger DS 1528–1529, 1522–1523, 1027, 261, 411, 624, 1025, 1513, 1693, 2005*, 2304*, 1447–1449Ecclesiastical Writers
Apostolic Fathers 1Cl 7.4, 49.6, Diog 9.2, IEph 8.1, Poly 2.3
St. Irenaeus Adv. Haer. 5.14.2–4, 3.16.9, 22.4, 4.5.4, 5.1.1, 16.3, 17.1
Tertullian Ad mart. 1
St. Cyprian Cyprian, Ep. (O) 15–Cyprian, Ep. (O) 23
St. Cyril of Jerusalem Cyr. Hier., Cat. Lect. 13.33
St. Ambrose De paenit. 1.15.81, De virgin. 1.7.32
St. John Chrysostom Hom. Rom. 10
St. Thomas Aquinas SCG 4.55, SCG 3.158, STh., III q.48 a.2 ad 1, Supplementum q.13 a.2See also: Expiation; Redeemer
Andrew Jones et al., eds., Catholic Topical Index (Bellingham, WA: Verbum, 2013).Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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"There are five groups of Greek words that explicitly point to making into a god or deifying: 1) ἀποθεόω/ἀποθειόω—ἀποθέωσις apotheoō/apotheioō-apotheōsis 2) θεοποιέω—θεοποιία—θεοποίησις—θεοποιός theopoiēsis-theopoios; 3) ἐκθεόω/ἐκθειόω—ἐκθέωσις—ἐκθεωτικός ektheoō/ektheioō-ektheōsis-ektheōtikos; 4) θεόω—θέωσις12 theoō—theōsis; 5) ἀποθειάζω—ἐκθειάζω apotheiazō ektheiazō.13 The subject-verb sets θεὸς εἰμί theios eimi (“to be god”) and especially θεὸς γίγνομαι theos gignomai (“to become god”) were extensively used. Here, we purposefully use the word “god” with the lower case letter “g” to indicate that the deified human person never stops being human. Here we should point out that not all Greek words for deification connote a strong literal meaning of “becoming a god” or being “deified.” Often it is the qualities of Godliness that are being emphasized."
Finlan, Stephen, and Vladimir Kharlamov. “Introduction.” Theōsis: Deification in Christian Theology. Ed. K. C. Hanson, Stephen Finlan, and Vladimir Kharlamov. Vol. 52. Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2006. 6–7. Print. Princeton Theological Monograph Series.
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Lexham Bible Dictionary seems to use them synonymously.SineNomine said:Hmmm... should the Factbook articles on Theosis and Deification be merged? Exact same thing, just two different terms, one from Greek and the other from Latin.
"A Finnish interpretation of Martin Luther has attempted to present a new portrait of the German Reformer by placing his theology of justification in coordination to a theology of theosis or deification (e.g., Mannermaa, Christ Present)."Bird, Michael F. “Justification.” Ed. John D. Barry et al. The Lexham Bible Dictionary 2016 : n. pag. Print.
Under the section for Spirit Indwelling in Lexham Survey for Theology, it says
"Eastern churches largely speak of salvation as a process of “deification” (theosis) in which believers partake in the divine life through the indwelling of the Spirit."Calhoun, Susanne. “The Spirit’s Indwelling.” Lexham Survey of Theology. Ed. Mark Ward et al. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2018. Print.
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SineNomine said:
Hmmm... should the Factbook articles on Theosis and Deification be merged? Exact same thing, just two different terms, one from Greek and the other from Latin.
Looks to me like they should: i'll pursue that barring objection from those who are more knowledgable.
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Sean Boisen said:SineNomine said:
Hmmm... should the Factbook articles on Theosis and Deification be merged? Exact same thing, just two different terms, one from Greek and the other from Latin.
Looks to me like they should: i'll pursue that barring objection from those who are more knowledgable.
Great! [Y]
If there are any such objections, I hope they make it into this thread so we'll know what they are.
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Sean Boisen said:SineNomine said:
Hmmm... should the Factbook articles on Theosis and Deification be merged? Exact same thing, just two different terms, one from Greek and the other from Latin.
Looks to me like they should: i'll pursue that barring objection from those who are more knowledgable.
If there are objections, then they might surface in regard to the possible limitation that I've heard E.O. theosis entails, which is that obedient humans can become God-ish, whereas Deification may imply obedient humans can become God. Even so, they could probably be combined and any variation could be taken up in the article. I would give preference to the Greek term over the Latin in terms of determining the topic heading.
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David Paul said:
then they might surface in regard to the possible limitation that I've heard E.O. theosis entails, which is that obedient humans can become God-ish, whereas Deification may imply obedient humans can become God.
I've always heard the same image applied to both ... solar flare vs. the sun itself. Sean, from my reading, they are the same term. IIRC the Greek term is attested first.
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Hi Blair:
besides the terms Theosis and divinization, I learn that there are other terms less known:
Apotheosis. Ever heard of that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotheosis
I tried to look for resources in L9 and very few are available.
What is disturbing in this particular contextual time is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_religion#Political_religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_civil_religion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington
An article mentioned that the Apotheosis of Washington does not mean that he became divine, but that his modeling as character to be emulated has become an ideology.
Some seem to have taken the issue in other sense:
https://www.templestudy.com/2009/06/27/apotheosis-washington/
Any thoughts?
P.S. did find one resource that may shed light into the topic:
Peace and grace.
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