Home Page Thoughts
Just a few thoughts on the Home page and reading plans.
- The Home page at first appears to be nothing but a hodge podge of text "article snippets" Well that's what it is. But now that the infographics are starting to appear I find it quite a bit more readable because it's broken up.
- I would prefer that the whole blog article would be on the home page, rather than a teaser and link. That's just me.
- Why not incorporate the reading plan(s) that are active into the home page? of course I can click through but since you're automating so much anyway, pull the daily reading into the home page and I can read it along with the rest of the newspaper.
- Status Updates. If I'm indexing or downloading updates, why not make the first item on the home page a status update?
- One of the options under "customize" is "my logos messages" what are you planning on putting there?
- Now that I've selected my preferred bible, get it off the home page "ribbon".
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tcblack said:
Just a few thoughts on the Home page and reading plans.
- The Home page at first appears to be nothing but a hodge podge of text "article snippets" Well that's what it is. But now that the infographics are starting to appear I find it quite a bit more readable because it's broken up.
Agreed it is a hodge podge....don't have infographics yet so can't say if it improves it for me.
tcblack said:I would prefer that the whole blog article would be on the home page, rather than a teaser and link. That's just me.
Not sure about that.... screeen size might influence usefulness of this ... kind of like the idea of opening up full artilce in a floating window on second screen so focussed on it alone, and not discrated by surrounding material... I think flexibility is the key cause we are all going to like slightly different things
tcblack said:Why not incorporate the reading plan(s) that are active into the home page? of course I can click through but since you're automating so much anyway, pull the daily reading into the home page and I can read it along with the rest of the newspaper.
As per previous point I think I like better opening in floating window on second screen in reaading mode...once again flexibility needed to handle different user needs
tcblack said:Status Updates. If I'm indexing or downloading updates, why not make the first item on the home page a status update?
This would be good maybe a bit more expanded information than is available from tray icon like resource currently being indexed. It would be helpful to know a say its a reverse interlinear, I would then know that's why the count hadn't changed in a while... also maybe a progess bar showing percent of total resources processed... what would be really cool is if a database was maintained on indexing performance and ibased on this information it gave an estimated time the whole process will take
tcblack said:Just a few thoughts on the Home page and reading plans.
One of the options under "customize" is "my logos messages" what are you planning on putting there?
Good question!
tcblack said:Now that I've selected my preferred bible, get it off the home page "ribbon".
Yes Please.. I've moved it to the end of the ribbon so it doesn' t actually appear on the first page of ribbon but would be good to get rid of it from there.
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AndrewMckenzie said:
This would be good maybe a bit more expanded information than is available from tray icon like resource currently being indexed. It would be helpful to know a say its a reverse interlinear, I would then know that's why the count hadn't changed in a while... also maybe a progess bar showing percent of total resources processed... what would be really cool is if a database was maintained on indexing performance and ibased on this information it gave an estimated time the whole process will take
I like this idea. I have a shortcut to the index log on my desktop and occasionally check where it is up to. When I see one of the interlinears, I nknow that I'm in for a very long wait.
AndrewMckenzie said:tcblack said:Now that I've selected my preferred bible, get it off the home page "ribbon".
Yes Please.. I've moved it to the end of the ribbon so it doesn' t actually appear on the first page of ribbon but would be good to get rid of it from there.
Agreed. And I've done the same as Andrew, shifting it as far to the right as it will go. I'd also love to get the start a new reading plan off there as well. An the lectionary (though I have used the links there to start passage guides)
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AndrewMckenzie said:
what would be really cool is if a database was maintained on indexing performance and ibased on this information it gave an estimated time the whole process will take
Even above my own suggestions Andrew I like this one. Contrary to some feedback here, I like the indexing feature - I love the fact that I just searched my entire 2600+ book library for an obscure word (paterology) in 0.31 seconds. I found one resource with five hits in it. The same search in Logos3 took about 15 minutes. To me it is worth it to spend the time up front indexing. To each their own.
My point is, that since Indexing is here (I think for the better) keeping a database based on automated feedback (something like: "click here to approve sending your statistics to Logos") would go a long way to soothing the angst new users will have.
With such a database first time run you'd be greeted with a dialog saying something like this:
[quote]"Welcome to Logos Bible Software 4!
I know you are excited to get into your library, and We're pleased to be a part of your Bible Study.
One of the new features of Logos 4 is super fast searching. You're library has come with a pre-configured index for this searching but in order to get the best experience we would like to rebuild this index while you work, or if you prefer - while you sleep.
Based upon the Windows Experience Index of your computer and the number of resources in your collection it will take Xteen hours to index and fully unleash the potential of your library for searching. In the meantime please click Here to watch some introductory video's or click here to get right into study."
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tcblack said:
Now that I've selected my preferred bible, get it off the home page "ribbon".
Further:
Right now when customizing the home screen
1) You select your prefered bible from the icon at the top of the screen
2) You select your reading plan from the icon at the top of the screen
3) You select your lectionary by adjusting the number of stars in your library screen
4) You customize some of the content from the customize menu at the bottom
5) You can make a custom cup of coffee by rubbing your stomach patting your head and typing Juan Valdez in the command bar on the home page if you do all three at the same time.
Suggestion: Pick one method and go for it. I suggest the customize button since it is already needed, and it screams customization settings
a) Add the selection of the prefered bible here.
b) Add a selection of the prefered lectionary, and the option to turn it off
c) Add a selection of the preferred reading plan and the option to turn it off
d) Keep all the other stuff that is already there.
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Thomas,
a hearty I AGREE on all points..even your suggested "message" was very well written...
Robert Pavich
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Yes, please put all customization in one place. Pick one and go with it. This will be much easier.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Yes, please put all customization in one place. Also allow us to turn off items we don't want on the home page. Thanks.
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Jim,
I'm not sure if you saw the other thread on the homepage or not but what Bob P was saying was that they are trying to avoid the "every minute detail is customizable" thing, to keep cost down and user tech calls to a minimum...so I'm guessing that things like "let me take certain articles out" is probably low on the totem pole.
As for myself; I like the homepage; nothing will ever be EXACTLY the way I'd have done it but...I have no problem with it.
Just an FYI..
Robert Pavich
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Robert,
Thanks, but I wasn't really referring to altering the Home page (articles and such) as much as the "Ribbon" if you will. Since the ribbon seems to be static (as opposed to dynamic like the "newspaper" homepage) it would be nice to be able to select which items appear there (like preferred lectionary, etc.). I'm not sure if this is any different to what you were referring to or not.
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The features area at the top of the home page ("the ribbon") will offer a minimum of control by order, and probably by turning things on and off. And when it's done, you'll probably have more options there than spaces availables, making it easy to just "hide on the right" the things you're less interested in, while keeping them available if you want them.
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Bob,
Thanks! That's exactly what I was thinking. (It just keeps ketting better [:)] )
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Bob Pritchett said:
The features area at the top of the home page ("the ribbon") will offer a minimum of control by order, and probably by turning things on and off.
I'd like to plea for an option to turn the Home Page button off. I can't tell you how many times I've already lost my work in L4 because I accidentally hit the home page & lost everything I'd done since the last time I saved my layout. Without a "go-back" option from the home page (there's none I can find), its current location invites work loss--at least for me.
Currently, I open to the home page. But that's only because I can't open to my preferred layout & start work.
Overall, I'm liking L4. But I'm not now & not going to be starting my work from the home page. And to suffer work loss just adds to the frustration...
Thanks so much for all the GOOD new stuff.
Blessings to you & team!
Bill Stonebraker
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Bill Stonebraker said:
I'd like to plea for an option to turn the Home Page button off. I can't tell you how many times I've already lost my work in L4 because I accidentally hit the home page & lost everything I'd done since the last time I saved my layout. Without a "go-back" option from the home page (there's none I can find), its current location invites work loss--at least for me.
Simply hit the Home page button again and it will scroll out of the way to reveal your current layout.
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Thanks, Tom,
That worked, & supplies the recovery I needed... thanks, Logos!
Bill
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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For the Reading Plan on the Home page it currently says:
Monday "Text to read"
Tuesday "Text to read"
Etc.
Instead of "Monday", it would be nice if it had the date.
Mon. Sep 28
or even just
Sep. 28.
I just edited a reading plan and I was behind so the Monday showed up, though it is Saturday, and it took me a second to figure out why since it only said Monday, with no date.
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Good call Rob. I think after a week you start getting dates. I just checked my reading plans and one says Wednesday (today is Sat) and the other says September 14 in the first entry. While the third says "yesterday".
I think you'll get appropriate information to help you make sense of it. Though it might be kind of "fun" to have it say "last Monday" instead of just "Monday".
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[<:o)] LOL! Actually I was thinking more along the lines of these kind of dates:
Perhaps not nearly as attractive as the other kind. [;)]
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I agree that the page is a hodge podge of busy stuff. I like the infographics and I want some information about updates (both to software and resources).
How about adding some special pricing or special offers too.
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tcblack said:
With such a database first time run you'd be greeted with a dialog saying something like this:
[quote]"Welcome to Logos Bible Software 4!
I know you are excited to get into your library, and We're pleased to be a part of your Bible Study.
One of the new features of Logos 4 is super fast searching. You're library has come with a pre-configured index for this searching but in order to get the best experience we would like to rebuild this index while you work, or if you prefer - while you sleep.
Based upon the Windows Experience Index of your computer and the number of resources in your collection it will take Xteen hours to index and fully unleash the potential of your library for searching. In the meantime please click Here to watch some introductory video's or click here to get right into study."
This reminds me of the disclaimers they handed to me regarding Lasik eye surgery when I went in to see whether I was a good candidate. If I didn't know that they were having considerable success with it, I might have been inclined to tell them to forget it since I value being able to see reasonably well even though I need to wear contacts (Well, I could also wear glasses, but I dispise glasses).
george
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tcblack said:
[quote]"Welcome to Logos Bible Software 4!
I know you are excited to get into your library, and We're pleased to be a part of your Bible Study.
One of the new features of Logos 4 is super fast searching. You're library has come with a pre-configured index for this searching but in order to get the best experience we would like to rebuild this index while you work, or if you prefer - while you sleep.
Based upon the Windows Experience Index of your computer and the number of resources in your collection it will take Xteen hours to index and fully unleash the potential of your library for searching. In the meantime please click Here to watch some introductory video's or click here to get right into study."
PS. We are not responsible for incidental damage or malfunctions of your computer during this process. However it would be very helpful to have a household fan as additional cooling during this period.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
PS. We are not responsible for incidental damage or malfunctions of your computer during this process. However it would be very helpful to have a household fan as additional cooling during this period.
That's way too funny for 4:35am!
Robert Pavich
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