ESV-CE?
I’ve been seeing the Augustine Institute talk about a Catholic edition of the ESV. Anybody know if there’s movement to bring this to Logos?
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David Wanat said:
I’ve been seeing the Augustine Institute talk about a Catholic edition of the ESV. Anybody know if there’s movement to bring this to Logos?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Thank you. I must have missed this
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Is there any word on when customers outside the US will be able to purchase this?
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We hope to have a worldwide license in the future.
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Are there any plans for a Reverse Interlinear? I imagine it wouldn't take too much to adapt the one used for the ESV, albeit with some extra work on the deuterocanonicals (especially Tobit)
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We hope to have a worldwide license in the future.
I'm in the U.S. but it's showing as not available for individual purchase. Is that a mistake? I was trying to add it to my wishlist but can't since it's not for sale.
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The reverse interlinear is in production and will be pushed out to the base packages as soon as it's finished.
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TL Putnam said:
The reverse interlinear is in production and will be pushed out to the base packages as soon as it's finished.
Great - Thanks TL!
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TL Putnam said:
The reverse interlinear is in production and will be pushed out to the base packages as soon as it's finished.
I was just trying to add the bible itself to my wishlist, I wasn't trying to purchase the reverse interlinear. Is the unavailability of the RI impacting our ability to buy just the bible by itself?
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Kiyah said:
I'm in the U.S. but it's showing as not available for individual purchase. Is that a mistake? I was trying to add it to my wishlist but can't since it's not for sale.
Right now it's only available in Verbum 9 Gold and above, but it will be available for individual sale in the future.
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Right now it's only available in Verbum 9 Gold and above, but it will be available for individual sale in the future.
Okay thanks!
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Right now it's only available in Verbum 9 Gold and above, but it will be available for individual sale in the future.
It's available now, but not geo-restricted to the US.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
There are still some geo-restrictions, and we're working to get worldwide distribution.
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We hope to have a worldwide license in the future.
looking forward to it, thanks!
Have joy in the Lord!
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There are still some geo-restrictions, and we're working to get worldwide distribution.
Progress is good!
So I can buy it individually in Canada, but not within in a Verbum Library.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I am not very happy with this purchase. Faithlife dropped the ball on this.
The formatting is horrible. Very uneven spacing between every few lines of text.
No footnotes.
No cross-references.
I am guessing it might work with Factbook once the interlinear is finished.
Typical of Faithlife "half-way is good enough".
Not good enough guys, you need to fix this.
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TWBeining said:
I am not very happy with this purchase. Faithlife dropped the ball on this.
The formatting is horrible. Very uneven spacing between every few lines of text.
No footnotes.
No cross-references.
Huh? Can you post a screen shot? Mine has footnotes and the format of the original. I need to check further re: cross-reference.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Regarding formatting, I can see the "uneven spacing": The large chapter number forces more space between the first line of the chapter and the second. And the verse numbers reach out above the normal height of a line - they will occur often, but thus a line with no verse number will be closer to the line above than "usual" - see your very last line on the page, or the fourth from below. This may be exactly as the printed edition, I don't know, but if I was editing such a thing for print I would make sure that the line spacing is sufficient for the verse numbers, and maybe put the first chapter line at the bottom of the chapter number, not into the middle. But that's just my personal feeling about this. And while I see the "uneven spacing", it doesn't disturb me.
Anyway, it may be many months or even years until I'll even be allowed to buy ESV-CE....
Have joy in the Lord!
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TWBeining said:
The formatting is horrible. Very uneven spacing between every few lines of text.
No footnotes.
No cross-references.
The only issue I note when comparing print to Verbum edition is the "uneven spacing" at the start of a new chapter (i.e. the line with the larger chapter numeral has a larger leading following it).
As to footnotes and cross references, everything that appears in the printed edition from the Augustine Institute seems to be present. By way of example (I tried to match which verses displayed as closely as I could between the two):
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Footnotes were my bad. Forgot to turn them on.
The ESV is literally littered with cross-references (good thing), so I figured this would also be true of the ESV-CE. Might be a bad assumption on my part, but a big disappointment for me that they are not included.
Screenshot below shows so very poor spacing problems. BTW, I do expect some difference with the larger chapter numbers.
MJ, I can see the spacing problems in the screenshot you posted. Amazingly enough I do not see it in Kevin's screenshot.
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The spacing is inherent in the electronic file sent by the publisher. Faithlife differences should be primarily the result of the rendering and default fonts. I agree it is not ideal.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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This is even worse
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TWBeining said:
MJ, I can see the spacing problems in the screenshot you posted. Amazingly enough I do not see it in Kevin's screenshot.
Kevin's screenshot is displaying the text in a different font that shows a much smaller height disparity between verse numbers and the top of the text. (Compare the relative heights of the top of the quotation marks and the top of the verse numbers.) Fix your font to fix your problem.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I've created a feedback item for this: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/1009
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Thank you Bradley!
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Dr. Mark Giszczak wrote a post on the Verbum blog about the ESV-CE: https://blog.verbum.com/2020/11/10-reasons-to-use-the-esv-catholic-edition-in-verbum/
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Active Link to Dr. Giszczak's blog post.
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There are still some geo-restrictions, and we're working to get worldwide distribution.
I have all the RIs for ESVCE, but not the bible (ESVCE) itself....[:'(]
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Leo Wee Fah said:
I have all the RIs for ESVCE, but not the bible (ESVCE) itself....
Same. I wish Logos had put it in the same packages that they put the Reverse Interlinear.
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Just checking, since there's a sale now for this ...
Does the ESV-CE Augustine Bible work with all the Reverse Interlinears now?
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Joshua said:
Does the ESV-CE Augustine Bible work with all the Reverse Interlinears now?
Each translation requires it's own set of reserve interlinears which work only for that translation. Yes, the ESV-CE has a full set of reverse interlinears.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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It's terrible to come across this inconsistency of spacing between Hebrew texts/words and texts from other languages. It really bothers me that the use of "display multiple books" is inconsistent when I use the Hebrew text side by side with the Greek LXX and an English version. The Greek text conforms perfectly to the font size I select, but only the Hebrew is larger than the other languages. I don't know, but I think the solution would be to choose another Hebrew font that is more compact and follows the size of the other fonts.
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Anderson Abreu said:
but only the Hebrew is larger than the other languages.
There was a frequent request in the forums for larger Hebrew fonts. Logos listened.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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