9.2 (9.2.0.0014) is now available
The Logos Bible Software desktop application version 9.2 is now available to all users.
To immediately update to the current stable version, enter the Update Now command. Otherwise, the app will automatically update the next time it's scheduled to check for updates.
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This is a nice update, but I can't help but be somewhat disappointed that Dark Mode highlighting is still unusable. For a feature that's listed as the #3 new feature on the Logos 9 product page it feels like the fixes are not high enough on the priority list.
The highlighting palette has a very limited range of colors to choose from so I'm surprised that this wasn't thoroughly tested and fixed by now.
I hope 9.3 will prioritize Dark Mode fixes
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I downloaded it and restarted, but I don't see the "today in Christian history" card -- is there something else I need to see to enable this?
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I'm in the same boat. I don't have a "Today in Christian History Card" for the Home Page. Also after reading the release notes, the software tells me I've updated to 9.2 but there are some features that I don't have that the Release notes say I should.
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The card appears in the 'explore' section.
I thought it would be in the dashboard, so missed it as well!
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Dave Couch said:
The card appears in the 'explore' section.
I'm also not getting it appearing, even after enabling everything in the "Explore" section and restarting Logos twice. Not a major problem to me, as I have so many cards in the "Dashboard" section I don't often even get down to the "Explore" section.
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GregW said:Dave Couch said:
The card appears in the 'explore' section.
I'm also not getting it appearing, even after enabling everything in the "Explore" section and restarting Logos twice.
Does today in history require a certain data set or feature level to show up / run?
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I do not see it either, looked in everything.
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David Ames said:
Does today in history require a certain data set or feature level to show up / run?
I've got Platinum and Connect so I'd be very surprised if I haven't got the appropriate level.
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Robert Sussland said:
I downloaded it and restarted, but I don't see the "today in Christian history" card -- is there something else I need to see to enable this?
We are looking into fixing this.
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I also do not see a "today in Christian history" card. I also noticed that even though I have "pre-orders" unchecked in my settings, I'm still seeing cards for pre-orders.
EDIT: I fixed it by unchecking "My Logos Messages"
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Michael said:
I also do not see a "today in Christian history" card.
I'm sorry for the confusion, everyone.
This new card, and the corresponding Factbook section, requires a brand new dataset called "Today in Christian History." As a special thank you for everyone who has purchased/ will purchase a Logos 9 base package during the launch period, you'll get this new dataset for free. We are working on unlocking as we speak; you should see it on the home page later today, after restarting the software.
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Thank you, it's working! I have it!
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Philana, this release still has the freeze that I reported and Dave confirmed in BUG: Concordance guide in current beta ... and we never got a confirmation that FL acknowledged the problem. Fighting said freeze tonight has not put me in a good mood about this.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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So....Verbum 9 owners and Verbum Now subscribers don't get this? Still trying, after several years, what I get and don't get.
Thanks
KSC
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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One thing that this specific feature highlights is that Logos doesn't do well with being left open overnight. It appears that the expected use case is for Logos to be closed and reopened daily.
I say this because the 'Today in Christian History' card does not update unless I press Refresh on the Dashboard. This is similar behaviour to Reading Plans saying 'tomorrow' when it is in fact today's reading (unless I restart the app).
Are there any plans to change that behaviour, or should I open a feedback suggestion?
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Kevin S. Coy said:
So....Verbum 9 owners and Verbum Now subscribers don't get this? Still trying, after several years, what I get and don't get.
Why do you think that is the case? I don't know the answer, but I would not assume that Adam's use of "Logos 9" necessarily excludes "Verbum 9" users as well.
On the other hand... If the "Today in Christian History" leans heavily towards protestant events in history, I could see why this may not be included in those packages.
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JT
I say it because neither the card nor the dataset have shown up to my Verbum.
As for it being heavily Protestant is entirely irrelevant to me...I have a lot of "Protestant" resources.
Thanks
KSC
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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Kevin S. Coy said:
As for it being heavily Protestant is entirely irrelevant to me...I have a lot of "Protestant" resources.
I understand, but there is a reason for having a distinct Verbum brand. Not everyone feels as you do, else there wouldn't be a separate program "Verbum" at all.
Hopefully Adam can clarify. If this is intended only for "Logos" users, you may be able to pick up an inexpensive L9 package if the feature would be of interest to you. (Browsing through the denominational packages can often be rewarding).
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Thanks JT. Basically, I'm just being curious because I didn't know if I should report it as a bug if Verbum was supposed to get it (we are Christians too [:D]) and I didn't. If Verbum isn't supposed to get it I'm fine with that, too.
I appreciate your responses and all the help you give throughout the forums.
Thanks,
KSC
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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Kevin S. Coy said:
we are Christians too
Indeed!
As JT mentioned, the dataset is heavily weighted toward Protestant (and in some cases, very recent Protestant) history. Work has already begun on a dataset that would be more useful and interesting to the Catholic audience. I'd love to connect with you to explore the matter further.
Thank you for advocating for it!
TL
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TL,
That is great news about the new dataset. A lot of history to be input.
KSC
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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TL Putnam said:
the dataset is heavily weighted toward Protestant (and in some cases, very recent Protestant) history. Work has already begun on a dataset that would be more useful and interesting to the Catholic audience.
Can we assume that which dataset is used [when the "Catholic audience" one is ready] will depend on the setting of "Verbum" [as in "set Verbum to No" or "set Verbum to Yes"] ?
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Clicked on the card “Today in Christian History”
Got a line starting with a flag about:
“1986 Charismatic Bible Ministries Is Founded Organization”
Clicked on the flag and nothing happened.
Is that what I should expect? [or did nothing happen because I do not own the resource that the link pointed to?]
[Also was shown a media image that opened when clicked and gave:
A photo with the caption: "On January 21, 1956, Patriarch Timotheus of Jerusalem was buried. Clothed in all his vestments his body is on view to Orthodox Arab and Greek mourners"]
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David Ames said:
Clicked on the card “Today in Christian History”
Got a line starting with a flag about:
“1986 Charismatic Bible Ministries Is Founded Organization”
Clicked on the flag and nothing happened.
Is that what I should expect? [or did nothing happen because I do not own the resource that the link pointed to?]
<snip/>
We created a number of new Timeline events to support the Today in Christian History data: i don't think they've all gotten shipped yet. This one does exist internally, so it should get shipped soon.
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TL Putnam said:
As JT mentioned, the dataset is heavily weighted toward Protestant (and in some cases, very recent Protestant) history.
And here I thought the criteria was events involving people and organizations of which MJ has never heard. [;)] But I was thinking of this problem last night. There is no practical way for Faithlife to cover enough of the theological/denominational streams to keep it both interesting and useful for everyone. I started imagining denominational add-ins that one could select as options. While owned and maintained by Faithlife, they would be created by users who self-identify with the denominational stream. In other words, Faithlife asks Catholics, Anglicans, Orthodox, Baptists, Wesleyians ... for events they consider worth offering. Faithlife creates the necessary entry for those that meet Faithlife criteria - and tags them by theological stream. User requests by theological stream and get events they find interesting/useful ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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David Ames said:
the dataset is heavily weighted toward Protestant (and in some cases, very recent Protestant) history. Work has already begun on a dataset that would be more useful and interesting to the Catholic audience.
Although I am not Catholic, I would still be interested in a "Today in Christian History" card from the Catholic perspective. Does this mean I would have to purchase a Verbum package too?
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MJ. Smith said:
In other words, Faithlife asks Catholics, Anglicans, Orthodox, Baptists, Wesleyians ... for events they consider worth offering. Faithlife creates the necessary entry for those that meet Faithlife criteria - and tags them by theological stream. User requests by theological stream and get events they find interesting/useful ...
Can we also add different centuries. I happen to be very interested in the first few hundred years of the church. I think such a list could get very lengthy very quickly. [:)]
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Ronald Quick said:
Can we also add different centuries.
Have more interesting events than can be counted on one's fingers happened after 1500?
[:D]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Dave Couch said:
It appears that the expected use case is for Logos to be closed and reopened daily.
I say this because the 'Today in Christian History' card does not update unless I press Refresh on the Dashboard. This is similar behaviour to Reading Plans saying 'tomorrow' when it is in fact today's reading
Logos does very well being left open for several days. I can't verify your report for date-based cards, but it could be suggested that the software should update them when switching to the Home Page.
Dave
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Here's what I saw this morning (January 22nd). You can see that Logos still thinks it is January 21st. When I hit refresh on the dashboard everything fixes itself.
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I left Logos on the Home Page overnight and noticed this morning that my Devotional showed the wrong date. When I re-opened the Home Page it had been corrected. I didn't check the "Today in Christian..." card. But I noticed that "Today" was correct when checked a couple of Reading Plans in my layout (I'll have to check this tomorrow, because it could have been updated when I re-opened the Home Page).
Are you on Mac?
Dave
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Sean Boisen said:
We created a number of new Timeline events to support the Today in Christian History data: i don't think they've all gotten shipped yet. This one does exist internally, so it should get shipped soon.
question: Yesterday I only got a headline. Today I got some more so I clicked on it and got a paragraph from one of the resources I own on the subject. What I expected was a brief paragraph on the topic of the day. What I think I got today was a link into my library. And yesterday, as I do not own the resource, I did not get a link.
I maybe wrong but using the first two samples that other than the headline I see nothing unless I own the correct resource on the subject.
Does that mean that If I only owned a basic [small] library I should only see just a headline on today's item? Or am I using the tool wrong?
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“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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David Ames said:
I maybe wrong but using the first two samples that other than the headline I see nothing unless I own the correct resource on the subject.
You don't get taken to the Factbook entry for the "headline"?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:David Ames said:
I maybe wrong but using the first two samples that other than the headline I see nothing unless I own the correct resource on the subject.
You don't get taken to the Factbook entry for the "headline"?
tried some more dates. 20 & 22 take me to Factbook 21 did not - most likely because this is still a work in process.
[And also now I know how to use the tool a bit better. [found out how to change date] Thanks for the encouragement!]
January 20
1669 Life of Susanna Wesley Birth •
Susanna WesleyWoman, 1669–1742 — Wesley is known as the Mother of Methodism, being the mother of John and Charles Wesley, founders of Methodism. She ran her household with good discipline and gave her children an attentive and complete education.
January 21
1986 Charismatic Bible Ministries Is Founded Organization
Did not get link to Factbook
January 22
1876 Death of John Dykes, Composer of the Hymn Holy, Holy Holy Death • John Bacchus Dykes (Writer of Hymn-Tunes)
John Bacchus Dykes (Writer of Hymn-Tunes)Anglican, Author, Composer, Hymn Writer, Man, 1823–1876 — John Bacchus Dykes was a leader in the Church of England, but left to Surrey after the church court ruled against him. His fame comes from his three hundred hymns, which include “Holy, Holy, Holy.
1913 Life of Theologian Carl F. H. Henry Birth • Carl Ferdinand Howard Henry (Theologian and Editor)
Carl Ferdinand Howard Henry (Theologian and Editor)Man, Theologian, 1913–2003 — Carl F. H. Henry was an evangelical theologian in America who served as the first editor-in-chief for “Christianity Today”, a magazine developed to be a scholarly voic
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SineNomine said:
Interesting....I own Verbum 9 Platinum and a Verbum Now subscriber and I don't have it.
Thanks,
KSC
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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SineNomine said:
I have it in Verbum.
It's not limited by whether you are running Verbum or Logos. It's limited by whether you have purchased a Logos base packaged.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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MJ. Smith said:TL Putnam said:
As JT mentioned, the dataset is heavily weighted toward Protestant (and in some cases, very recent Protestant) history.
And here I thought the criteria was events involving people and organizations of which MJ has never heard.
But I was thinking of this problem last night. There is no practical way for Faithlife to cover enough of the theological/denominational streams to keep it both interesting and useful for everyone. I started imagining denominational add-ins that one could select as options. While owned and maintained by Faithlife, they would be created by users who self-identify with the denominational stream. In other words, Faithlife asks Catholics, Anglicans, Orthodox, Baptists, Wesleyians ... for events they consider worth offering. Faithlife creates the necessary entry for those that meet Faithlife criteria - and tags them by theological stream. User requests by theological stream and get events they find interesting/useful ...Let me try to further your imagination.
Here are two Google sheets:
I've shared them so anybody with the link can edit them (please don't share outside Logos forums, since it exposes some of our data).
You can either
- Add events for one of these denominational groups (see the Meta tab for directions).
- Move existing "generic" events from the "Generic TICH" tab to the main tab, to indicate this event is also of interest to this denominational group.
We can do more denominational groups like this if there's interest, but i'd like to prove the concept out before creating a lot of these. Exact implementation and licensing details TBD: my primary goal here is to gauge if there's enough interest in the community to fill out the data, because it all starts there.
Reposted on its own thread here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/198338/1149486.aspx. Please follow up there with questions and comments to avoid hijacking this thread.
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SineNomine said:
I have it in Verbum.
It's not limited by whether you are running Verbum or Logos. It's limited by whether you have purchased a Logos base packaged.
Which, technically, I haven't actually done. I have bought Logos 9 libraries, however.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I'm running Verbum 9.2 most recent update. I don't see an "Explore" category in the dropdown for adding cards to the dashboard. From this thread it sounds like I should expect to see that and then be able to pick the "Today in Christian History". But I'm not finding either.
I have a bigger problem though, possibly with the Version 9.2 udpate. The cards themselves are not functioning well. If I click any of the cards they may or may not open. They use to open with just a click. Also if I click on the three dots to remove the card the little "Remove Card" may or may not show up. And if it does and I click on it the card may more may not delete. Generally they won't delete. It took me a number of attempts to delete the card. I could usually select the card with the mouse, hold down the mouse and reposition the card. That seemed to always work. But opening the card or removing the card was hit and miss - usually miss. I'm running Verbum 9.2 on my Windows 10 Laptop and Windows 10 Desktop and having the same issue on both computers. My Windows 10 is fully updated.
If I need to send you a log file please let me know where I can find this.
Thanks for your help.
Oh and BTW, even though I'm Catholic I still would enjoy the "Today in Christian History" since I enjoy religious history of Christianity in general and not just Catholic religious history - so if the Today in Christian History is being made available in Verbum I very much appreciate that!
Greg Rose
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Greg Rose said:
I have a bigger problem though, possibly with the Version 9.2 udpate. The cards themselves are not functioning well. If I click any of the cards they may or may not open. They use to open with just a click.
Would you start a new thread and prefix the title with BUG: The issue will get lost in this thread, and others have reported a similar experience.
I find sometimes that clicking on a Reading Plan Card in Verbum or Logos will activate it (I see the flashing red, circular "visual cue") but it doesn't switch to the layout to complete the action.
Dave
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Greg Rose said:
I have a bigger problem though, possibly with the Version 9.2 udpate. The cards themselves are not functioning well. If I click any of the cards they may or may not open. They use to open with just a click. Also if I click on the three dots to remove the card the little "Remove Card" may or may not show up. And if it does and I click on it the card may more may not delete. Generally they won't delete. It took me a number of attempts to delete the card. I could usually select the card with the mouse, hold down the mouse and reposition the card. That seemed to always work. But opening the card or removing the card was hit and miss - usually miss. I'm running Verbum 9.2 on my Windows 10 Laptop and Windows 10 Desktop and having the same issue on both computers. My Windows 10 is fully updated.
This has been fixed in 9.5.
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