Indexing

David R. McAllan
David R. McAllan Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

I downloaded and install 4.0 today. All went ok until indexing. It crashed often. I took advice about removing pre-2006 & lix/lsf files from Libronix 3.0 resource folder. Got me a bit further into indexing but still crashed. The real problem is that it goes right back to the beginning instead of picking up where it crashed at 2 files to go (grrr). Next step was to empty the resource folder completely & crashed at about 590 files to go.

Well, I'm at a loss and am looking for advice please on what to do.

Specs: Laptop Toshiba P30; P4 3.2 ghz; 2gb RAM; 128mb video card; running XP

David
https://echucacommunitychurch.com

MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020), 8 gig RAM, macOS Ventura.

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  • David R. McAllan
    David R. McAllan Member Posts: 294 ✭✭

    Sorry, I meant to say that when I emptied the resource folder of lix/lsf & pre 2006 files, the indexer got to 2 files to go before it crashed.

    David

    David
    https://echucacommunitychurch.com

    MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020), 8 gig RAM, macOS Ventura.

  • Bobby Terhune
    Bobby Terhune Member Posts: 690 ✭✭

    David,

    I also had to remove E4 resources as well as PBB files for my indexer to finish compiling. I'm not sure which title in these categories are the chief offenders, but third party book files at this time seem to be problematic. By the way E4 wasw a company that created a lot of books but didn't do a great job of makeing a quality product and Logos dropped them from being able to make and distribute Libronix books.

    Bobby

  • Bobby Terhune
    Bobby Terhune Member Posts: 690 ✭✭

    Logos,

    We need a list of known book titles that are causing Logos 4's indexer to hang/crash, is such a list possible?

    Bobby

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    Logos,

    We need a list of known book titles that are causing Logos 4's indexer to hang/crash, is such a list possible?

    Bobby

    It's hard to say, really, sometimes a resource can become corrupt and cause this, sometimes it can be caused by something specific to the user's machine and setup.. We are looking into getting the indexer to resume from where it left off after a crash or unexpected close, however I'm not guaranteeing anything, this is a difficult situation..

  • David R. McAllan
    David R. McAllan Member Posts: 294 ✭✭

    I think I'll have to wait until a fix is available for the indexer.
    I haven't the time to be trying to get it through to the end,
    especially since it goes all the way back to the start.

    BTW the error reporting tool does not work at all. It comes up & hangs - forever!

    Specs: Laptop Toshiba P30; P4 3.2 ghz; 2gb RAM; 128mb video card; running XP SP3, IE8.

    David
    https://echucacommunitychurch.com

    MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020), 8 gig RAM, macOS Ventura.

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    I think I'll have to wait until a fix is available for the indexer.
    I haven't the time to be trying to get it through to the end,
    especially since it goes all the way back to the start.

    BTW the error reporting tool does not work at all. It comes up & hangs - forever!

    Specs: Laptop Toshiba P30; P4 3.2 ghz; 2gb RAM; 128mb video card; running XP SP3, IE8.

    Hi thanks, we need some deeper logging to figure this one out. Please download to your desktop (right-click -> save as) and run: http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4InstallerTest/EnableLogging.js

    Then reproduce and post the logs again, thanks for your patience.

  • David R. McAllan
    David R. McAllan Member Posts: 294 ✭✭

    Hi George,

    I took some advice from other posts and one of your posts to someone else about moving some files to another directory before indexing. As you can see above, I have had a lot of problems but it turns out that indexing completed today with only 2 files moved out of Logos 4 resource directory & NONE moved out of LDLS 3.0 resource directory. I put all those resources I took out of 3.0 before I indexed & it went through fine. The problem files for me seem to be these...

    AV1873NT.lbsrvi
    GS_GJ_05.lbxlls

    It took the program about 5 hrs to complete indexing (689 files).

    Question: Can I put those 2 files back into L4 directory, or will it kick the indexing in & ruin previous indexing?  Please note that I have run the program and closed it several times, but the log files are attached for your reference. Thanks for your help.

    Specs: Laptop Toshiba P30; P4 3.6 ghz; 2gb RAM; 128mb video card; running XP SP3, IE8.

     

    David
    https://echucacommunitychurch.com

    MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020), 8 gig RAM, macOS Ventura.

  • David R. McAllan
    David R. McAllan Member Posts: 294 ✭✭

    I should proof read. I put all LDLS 3.0 resource files back into 3.0 before I ran L4 indexing and didn't crash the indexer.

    David
    https://echucacommunitychurch.com

    MacBook Pro (13-inch, M1, 2020), 8 gig RAM, macOS Ventura.

  • Ebbe Andréasson
    Ebbe Andréasson Member Posts: 720 ✭✭

    Question: Can I put those 2 files back into L4 directory, or will it kick the indexing in & ruin previous indexing?

    I put my files back and it work fine. My indexer didn't start again. I can read but not search in AV1873.

    Ebbe

  • James Brown
    James Brown Member Posts: 245 ✭✭

    That is an idea... move the interlinears for indexing and move them back for reading. Curious as to what the Logos guys say? or if there would be a way to have the indexer skip interlinears for beta testing. It would speed up the process.

    Not to make a list of all of my interlinear files [:D]

    Jim

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    Logos,

    We need a list of known book titles that are causing Logos 4's indexer to hang/crash, is such a list possible?

    Bobby

    Hi after speaking with the devs resources that cause problems are usually specific to that user because all the resources are actually fine, sometimes a specific user may encounter a corruption one way or another and thus it isn't relevant to the other users.

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    Hi George,

    I took some advice from other posts and one of your posts to someone else about moving some files to another directory before indexing. As you can see above, I have had a lot of problems but it turns out that indexing completed today with only 2 files moved out of Logos 4 resource directory & NONE moved out of LDLS 3.0 resource directory. I put all those resources I took out of 3.0 before I indexed & it went through fine. The problem files for me seem to be these...

    AV1873NT.lbsrvi
    GS_GJ_05.lbxlls

    It took the program about 5 hrs to complete indexing (689 files).

    Question: Can I put those 2 files back into L4 directory, or will it kick the indexing in & ruin previous indexing?  Please note that I have run the program and closed it several times, but the log files are attached for your reference. Thanks for your help.

    Specs: Laptop Toshiba P30; P4 3.6 ghz; 2gb RAM; 128mb video card; running XP SP3, IE8.

     

    Making Edit: Hi, just FYI the resource problems should all be fixed in a future beta.

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    That is an idea... move the interlinears for indexing and move them back for reading. Curious as to what the Logos guys say? or if there would be a way to have the indexer skip interlinears for beta testing. It would speed up the process.

    Not to make a list of all of my interlinear files Big Smile

    Jim

    I'm not so sure moving them would work, in fact I tried this, not only does it re-index but it will download the missing files. Maybe we can let the use choose what to index? As far as I know to do any kind of searching on any book it must be present in the indexer so I don't see how allowing the user to specify what to be indexed would be of any use either.

  • Ebbe Andréasson
    Ebbe Andréasson Member Posts: 720 ✭✭

    I'm not so sure moving them would work, in fact I tried this, not only does it re-index but it will download the missing files.

    I moved files away from v4 AND v3. After indexing I moved files back to v3 and v4. I've got no re-indexing and no download. Can't search but read.

    Ebbe

  • Perry Webb
    Perry Webb Member Posts: 29 ✭✭

    I'm having the same problem probably due to the E4 books.  Has anyone reported this a a bug?  Before Logos releases the program, it needs to be able to get around this problem, even if it skips indexing the books within the program itself. 

    Perry

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    PerryWebb said:

    I'm having the same problem probably due to the E4 books.  Has anyone reported this a a bug?  Before Logos releases the program, it needs to be able to get around this problem, even if it skips indexing the books within the program itself. 

    Perry

    Are you getting a crash? Can you post your logs? Thanks.

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭

    PerryWebb said:


    I'm having the same problem probably due to the E4 books.  Has anyone reported this a a bug?  Before Logos releases the program, it needs to be able to get around this problem, even if it skips indexing the books within the program itself. 

    Perry


     

    In case you missed it, Bradley has advised elsewhere to remove all E4 books and also recommends removing all lbxlls resources prior to Feb 2006.  Not all of this have been optimized and so can cause issues.  No conformation on when these lbxlls files will be sorted out and the future of the E4 books either ..at least that I have seen...too many posts to be able to keep up with them all.

  • George Allakhverdyan
    George Allakhverdyan Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭

    PerryWebb said:


    I'm having the same problem probably due to the E4 books.  Has anyone reported this a a bug?  Before Logos releases the program, it needs to be able to get around this problem, even if it skips indexing the books within the program itself. 

    Perry


     

    In case you missed it, Bradley has advised elsewhere to remove all E4 books and also recommends removing all lbxlls resources prior to Feb 2006.  Not all of this have been optimized and so can cause issues.  No conformation on when these lbxlls files will be sorted out and the future of the E4 books either ..at least that I have seen...too many posts to be able to keep up with them all.

    Right forgot about that, thanks Andrew.