Library Filter Panel does not have a sort feature? Why not?

Filtering is a basic, powerful, and welcomed feature.

But offering a filtering panel without the ability to sort the contents that have been filtered is a HUGE hinderance. One of the benefits of Logos in preparing sermons, lessons etc. is the time it saves one by not having to spend effort on non-value added activities.

Over the years my Logos collection has become rather large, so filtering is welcomed, but JUST AS IMPORTANTLY is the need for sorting. I have many collections, and it is really annoying to have to keep clicking "more" and scanning through a random list of collections to find the one I want to filter down to.

This is such a rudimentary feature...is this just a bug that needs to be fixed?

If so, would you please move this up the priority list to resolve? This gap is tarnishing your product and it's impacting it's effectiveness as a tool.

When might we expect this to be fixed?

Kind regards,

Carl

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MJ. Smith

Requests for new functions need to get prioritized by the user interest shown at Roadmap | Faithlife Feedback.

I used to hold the same position as you and could not understand why the Logos implementation is common in the industry. I have slowly learned to use the search function to bring the facets I am interested in to the forefront. So while I would support your request, I give it lower priority than I would have a couple of years ago.

Carl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1159283#Comment_1159283

Thanks MJ...much appreciate your comments and the roadmap link.

There are always workarounds, yet in my view, the "feature" of sorting is so basic that it's not really a feature, it's a basic expectation in any modern software platform that deals with information processing. As such, it just needs to get fixed because it's an omission that is glaring and contrasts with all the other very good elements that Logos offers for which I actually consider "features."

On the whole, I still consider this the best product in the market, at least from my experiences. The company has always been on-top of things and have done an excellent job with their product.

Thank you again for your thoughts and inputs, I always like to hear back from others, I do appreciate it.

Kind regards,

Carl

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1159290#Comment_1159290

There are always workarounds, yet in my view, the "feature" of sorting is so basic that it's not really a feature, it's a basic expectation in any modern software platform that deals with information processing.

It might be connected with efficiency (slowing the presentation), but I would agree that sorting is needed. I use manual filtering (from the Find box), where I can sort the results in a number of ways.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1159290#Comment_1159290

There are always workarounds, yet in my view, the "feature" of sorting is so basic that it's not really a feature, it's a basic expectation in any modern software platform that deals with information processing.

Totally agree, FL hides behind the Feedback model and workarounds to put off doing things that should simply be done instead of wating for the populus to find these suggestions and voting on them. Just ast sorting is missing here Range Searching is missing from Fuzzy Search and it's not a feature, it's a basics expetation and should just be addressed.

Carl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1159325#Comment_1159325

Thanks Dave...I'm sure there are trade-offs that I am not aware of that the FL programmers have to consider when making changes. Also, while the feature seems basic to most information systems, it may in reality be much more difficult and time consuming to add at this stage in the product's life cycle than I am understanding.

The manual filtering from the Find box is another good workaround to use in the meantime, so thank you for sharing that suggestion.

Kind regards,

Carl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1159326#Comment_1159326

Hi Disciple II,

I do see on-line user feedback models as being useful as one input in feature identification process. This is very much the model that Microsoft has done successfully in the past on many of their products.

That being said, the challenge in my view is that the dev teams at FL must be careful not to turn over the entire feature prioritization process to user feedback alone. I share your frustration in that I perceive that FL may have become to reliant upon the feedback system to direct their resources. It's an easy trap to fall into, as it avoids the anguish and debates internally about where to allocate resources. But those conversations are good ones to have even if they are uncomfortable ones.

On-line user feedback models should only be used to help identify significant needs, wants, and insights trending from the user community, but in the end, I believe that the dev teams need to also apply good judgement and set aside resources to take care of some of the essentials that belong to any platform that hopes to remain competitive for the long run. Failure to address these areas will ultimately open the door to existing customers becoming dissatisfied, or worse for FL, the gaps start to present opportunities for potential competitors to exploit with other products.

Appreciate your thoughts,

Kind regards,

Carl

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1159407#Comment_1159407

That being said, the challenge in my view is that the dev teams at FL must be careful not to turn over the entire feature prioritization process to user feedback alone

From the forum, you'd this that's the game-plan (follow the feedback!). But more realistically, a tiny percent of 'users' even go to the forum. An even tiny-er percent go to the please-track-me feedback site. Followed by a further slicing by yes-this, no-not-that.

I'd think, like most organized outfits, they have their long-term plans, mid-term-make-some-money-plans, and then short-term don't-fix-unless-serious (or wait to fix a bunch).

But I agree on your sort comment. They're an 80% group ... get 80% and wait 5 years to see who squeals.