Citation to APA 7th edition

Josanne Christie
Josanne Christie Member Posts: 4
edited November 21 in English Forum

Is there any way to upgrade the citation style from APA 6th to APA 7th in Logos 9?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,682

    Welcome Josanne,

    We have wait for Faithlife to do that. Your post may serve as a reminder!

    Dave
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  • Josanne Christie
    Josanne Christie Member Posts: 4

    Any Logos developers can answer this question?

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    I don’t use APA, but are there differences that apply?

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    I don’t use APA, but are there differences that apply?

    There are. Some are to in-text citations and others are to bibliographical entries.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    There are.

    Thanks SineNomine! [:)]

    in-text citations

    From my understanding, this is the only one which would apply to Logos. Is that right? 

    Regardless of the medium of the source, all sources with three authors or more are now attributed using the name of the first author followed by “et al.”
    • The only exception to this occurs when doing so would create ambiguity (e.g., if two papers have first-listed authors with the same name). In these cases, list as many names as needed to differentiate the papers, followed by “et al.”

    If these were changed to always have "et. al." after the first author, the user would need to know (s)he would need to manually adjust if more than one resource were used with that author, right? 

    bibliographical entries.

    Is this what you mean? I don't use APA, and have no idea what a "reference list" is.

    Reference list entries are handled largely the same in the seventh edition as they are in the sixth edition, barring a few important changes. Most pertain to electronic sources.

    • In the seventh edition, up to 20 authors should now be included in a reference list entry. For sources with more than 20 authors, after the 19th listed author, any additional authors' names are replaced with an ellipsis (…) followed by the final listed author's name. Do not place an ampersand before the final author's name.
    • Digital object identifiers (DOIs) and URLs are now both presented as hyperlinks for electronic sources.
    • The label “DOI:” is no longer used for entries that include a DOI.
    • The words “Retrieved from” (preceding the URL or DOI) are now only used when a retrieval date is also provided in the citation.
    • New guidelines describe how to use DOIs and URLs when citing sources obtained from academic research databases or online archives. In short, you should end the database/archive portion of the citation entry with a period, then provide the DOI or URL.
      • Note that, though database/archive information is typically not included in citation entries, it should be included when writers need to cite sources that are only available within a certain database.

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    From my understanding, this is the only one which would apply to Logos. Is that right? 

    No. For example, the Information view in the Library pane shows bibliographical entry information.

    If these were changed to always have "et. al." after the first author, the user would need to know (s)he would need to manually adjust if more than one resource were used with that author, right? 

    Yes. Changes may also need to be made if multiple cited authors have the same last name or if multiple works sharing the same author(s) were published in the same year. Sixth edition is/was still more complicated.

    bibliographical entries.

    Is this what you mean?

    Yes. A bibliographical entry is an entry in a bibliography. Depending on the citation style in question, the bibliography may be titled "Bibliography", "Works Cited", "References", or something else. There may also be a "Works Consulted" or similar section.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    Thanks. I will!!

    I voted for it: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/apa-7th-edition-upgrade

    At least for another year or so, it would probably be good for Logos to retain APA 6th edition citation capability (in addition to 7th), because academia is like that.

     

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara