Fuzzy Bible Search question

Mark Hoffman
Mark Hoffman Member Posts: 66
edited November 21 in English Forum

I was trying to find the passage somewhere in one of the Petrine letters about, as I kind of remembered, Jesus preaching to the spirits in prison.

I figured a quick English fuzzy search for "prison" would find it.I used a Bible search, All Bible Text in NT in NIV.

The search result has two panes: "Fuzzy Bible Search" and the Grid/Verses/Aligned/Analsyis one.

The passage didn't show up in the latter, but I found it in 1 Pet 3.19 when I switched to NRSV, It turns out that the NIV has: "he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits." I.e., the flex search didn't know to look for "imprison" as a word connected with "prison."

In the initial search using the NIV, the first 3 results in the "Fuzzy Bible Search" returned Gen 39.20, Gen 39.22, and 1 Pet 3.19. The Genesis verses were displayed in English. The 1 Pet 3.19 was displayed in Greek. First, it's odd that a NT search returned results in Genesis. Second, there appears to be no way to switch the results to all appear in English or to sort them in canonical order.

I looked on the forums, and it appears to suggest using a Basic search (instead of Bible), but the videos must reflect an earlier version of Logos since some of the options are no longer available. Searching for "prison" doesn't return the NIV result, but searching for "prison spirit" returns "Spirits in Prison" concept via the Factbook.

So what is the fastest way to find what I was searching for? Is there some database for fuzzy searching that found prison, prisons, prisoner, but not imprison? I was able to use *prison* to find what I wanted in the Bible search, but I was thinking I wouldn't need to do that.

Thanks.

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    The passage didn't show up in the latter, but I found it in 1 Pet 3.19 when I switched to NRSV, It turns out that the NIV has: "he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits." I.e., the flex search didn't know to look for "imprison" as a word connected with "prison."

    I'm not sure I quite follow. It appears that it did find the correct reference - 1 Peter 3:19 - but the issue was it showed the results in Greek.

    Is that the case or am I not following you correctly?

    And it correctly shows the results for me - in English

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    Can you post a screenshot showing the results of your search please?

  • Mark Hoffman
    Mark Hoffman Member Posts: 66

    Well! Thanks for replying. Yours looks different than mine!

    In mine, the 1 Pet 3.19 appears in Greek.

    Maybe it's something to do with the order of books in my library...

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,366

    Yours looks different than mine!

    In mine, the 1 Pet 3.19 appears in Greek.

    Maybe it's something to do with the order of books in my library...

    The content of each verse is shown using your most preferred Bible for that reference. You've likely prioritized a Greek Bible.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    Maybe it's something to do with the order of books in my library...

    I doubt it - I don't believe that impacts how these results are displayed.

    And I've just prioritised a Greek New Testament over all other Bibles in my Library and ran the search again - the results still show in English.

    Edit: Apologies - after seeing Andrew's post I checked again and saw that he was absolutely right!

  • Mark Hoffman
    Mark Hoffman Member Posts: 66

    I figured it out...

    I did not have the NIV in my collection of prioritized resources at all. I added it (and it doesn't matter where), it now shows the fuzzy results in English. (Though it still shows the Genesis results first even though I limited my search to the NT.)

    Thanks to both of you helping me to figure that out!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,490

    (Though it still shows the Genesis results first even though I limited my search to the NT.)

    There is, unfortunately, a long-standing issue with Fuzzy Search in that it does not respect ranges for searches