?? Syntax search for 1. Definite article in neuter WITH a noun in feminine
Eph 2:8 has long been disputed as to exactly what "is not of yourselves". I just read a commentary that said there are many attestations of a feminine noun having an associated neuter article. I'd like to see some.
ἐστε σεσωσμένοι διὰ πίστεως· καὶ τοῦτο οὐκ ἐξ ὑμῶν
I can't figure out how to Syntax Search or Morph Search for this.
Please help.
John Hamilton, The Navigators
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Hi John,
If you go to Docs and open a Morph Query and set it as follows:
You should get the results you are looking for. Others may have ideas using other search tools.
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Thanks, John. But that doesn't work. It returns verses with a neuter article in one phrase, and a feminine noun in a whole different phrase -- even with the 2 Word span.
I can't figure out how to get a search to return Eph 2:8 -- and a whole lot of Church doctrine rides on this thing.
Blessings,
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I get 27 results in 27 verses shown below. Is this what your results are?
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You can get Eph 2:8 as follows
The latter "Span" comes from a Proximity relation, which says the 2 words are adjacent (3 words allows one intervening word). The first "Span" states that the words are in the same verse.
However, there is only a neuter noun ("gift") associated with the neuter article, unless "God" (masculine) is the target. There is no Feminine noun
Dave
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there is only a neuter noun ("gift") associated with the neuter article, unless "God" (masculine) is the target. There is no Feminine noun
Neuter article/feminine noun only occurs in Jn 20:19, Acts 18:1. But the article is also tagged as Feminine!
Amongst the 27 results for Neuter article/masculine noun, many articles are also tagged as Masculine.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I must not be explaining myself adequately. Reformed theologians have long stated that "faith" is a gift of God to his elect, and they quote Eph 2:8 in support: στε σεσωσμένοι διὰ πίστεως· καὶ τοῦτο οὐκ ἐξ ὑμῶν.
The difficulty lies in associating touto with pistis. pistis is feminine; touto is neuter.
I just read a commentary that stated this is not a problem, since there are several other places in NT where a feminine noun is antecedent to to a neuter pronoun (I was wrong to say neuter article.).
So I'm still left with how to set up a syntax search to return the "several other places". Pls help.
Thanks,
John Hamilton
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If you look at my Morph Query above, change it as follows:-
Part of Speech Noun Pronoun
Gender Feminine Neuter
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Span: 3 Words
You should get 148 results
Dave
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Eph 2:8 has long been disputed as to exactly what "is not of yourselves"... I can't figure out how to Syntax Search
Three clause visualization resources show different analysis where two of them have separate clauses in Ephesians 2:8 while one shows Ephesians 2:8 and part of Ephesians 2:9 being one sentence, which can be used for Syntax Search:
Syntax Search example that includes Ephesians 2:8
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