Dataset Updates: Tuesday, June 22, 2021

Rick Brannan (Logos)

The following datasets are scheduled to be updated today, June 22, 2021:

Datasets

All the Battles in the Bible (English)
All the Dreams and Visions in the Bible (English)
All the Oaths and Vows in the Bible (English)

If for some reason release of resources is delayed, I'll respond to this thread.

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Kiyah

All the Dreams and Visions in the Bible (English)

I don't have the "All the Dreams and Visions in the Bible" list in my library. Is it new? Has it not been released yet?

Me neither.

Questions about these "All the ... in the Bible" resources:

1) What's the purpose of these resources? Are they meant to be read like a book, used as basis for research, used for Bible trivia games, tied to Factbook or other tools?

2) Why release them as standalone resources in the library, making them hard to find? Why not compile them as a single resource to be grown and expanded over time, just like the resource "Lists of Biblical People, Places, Things, and Events" by Jeremy Thompson?

3) Since we already have this resource by Jeremy Thompson (also published by Faithlife), why the need for these extra "All the ... in the Bible" resources? Seems redundant to me (although the latter contains a short blurb about each "thing" being documented).

Thanks in advance for enlightening us.

MJ. Smith

1) What's the purpose of these resources? Are they meant to be read like a book, used as basis for research, used for Bible trivia games, tied to Factbook or other tools?

They provide the required "dataset" for the related Label searches, the Passage Guide Concordance entry and the Facebook entries. In a strange way, they are replacing what we previously saw in the form of interactives which was a high maintenance cost implementation..

2) Why release them as standalone resources in the library, making them hard to find? Why not compile them as a single resource to be grown and expanded over time, just like the resource "Lists of Biblical People, Places, Things, and Events" by Jeremy Thompson?

I would suppose the answer is in the flexibility to add additional topics, the minimizing of maintenance costs in the code . . .

Why not compile them as a single resource to be grown and expanded over time,

One could ask the same question about the Manuals and Glossaries ... I suspect that FL finds library management across the various packages to be easier when these are separate.

3) Since we already have this resource by Jeremy Thompson (also published by Faithlife), why the need for these extra "All the ... in the Bible" resources? Seems redundant to me (although the latter contains a short blurb about each "thing" being documented).

Only a small amount of the data is duplicated ... it is duplicated only in the sense that headwords in our various Bible dictionaries are duplicates. The "All the .... in the Bible" resources are all entries with a number of attributes coded; the Lists resource is precisely that ... a list of entries that are in some sense similar.

Thanks MJ!

MJ. Smith

Rick - can you get the Dataset suggestions on Feedbear updated? about 10% of them are done and not marked as such which makes it difficult for people to determine what they really should vote on.

Sean Boisen

Yes, i'll update the suggestions. Things i've marked as In Progress or Planned are really just status notifications: once we've decided to do something, voting doesn't change anything for those. The main value of voting is to help us prioritize the Needs Your Opinion items: there are always more of those than we have resources to accomplish, so votes there can help us decide.

MJ. Smith

Thanks Sean

Beloved Amodeo

All the Dreams and Visions in the Bible (English)

I don't have the "All the Dreams and Visions in the Bible" list in my library. Is it new? Has it not been released yet?

bump* Neither do I!!!

Beloved Amodeo

If for some reason release of resources is delayed, I'll respond to this thread.

Rick, there's been a delay, but you have failed to respond. All the Dreams and Visions in the Bible has not downloaded.

Rick Brannan (Logos)

I'll see if I can discern what's going on with Dreams & Visions later today. Thanks for your patience, y'all.

Rick Brannan (Logos)

This was initially planned as two datasets that, due to fuzziness between visions and dream, was merged into one dataset. There was a miscommunication between teams as to how the resultant licensing will work. That's been identified and will be resolved, and the properly licensed resource should be delivered with the next resource update, July 6, 2021.

Thanks for your patience, y'all.

- Rick