Scripture searching in all resources

I called and spoke with a Logos representative on the phone. She gave me this link to inquire regarding a problem I have with scripture searching in certain resources within my library. While on the phone with her I showed her the example as follows....

I chose a scripture reference that I new was in Bible Study Magazine within my library. Next I opened passage guide and entered that particular verse. When the search is complete, it doesn't show that verse showing under the journal category. I have this issue with other resources as well. For instance Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah by Edersheim, Dake Topics, and Christian History Magazine issues. These are just more recent areas that I have tried in many ways to find scripture references by doing a global search.

Am I doing something wrong in my searching?

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Bob

Try using the “Cited By” tool. I think that would give you the results you are looking for.

Bob

Wesley Grau

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178584#Comment_1178584

Thanks for the quick response Bob.

I looked for the "cited by tool" and couldn't find it. So I did a search and can find help videos on-line about it in Logos 8. I am running Logos 9.7 currently and it isn't there like it was in Logos 8. Perhaps they moved it or it's called something different now?

Bob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178586#Comment_1178586

Wesley,

Look under the tools menu item and go down a bit and you should see ”cited by”. I’m on 9.7 also. But I’m not on the free version, so I don’t know if that makes a difference on this tool. I’m away from desktop right now but will try to give screen shot later.
bob

Wesley Grau

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178589#Comment_1178589

Thanks Bob,

Scrolling down further I found it. I will work with it and let you know if I have any further questions.

Wes

Mark Smith

You haven't told us how you are doing your 'global search'. It might help if you'd tell us exactly what you are doing and what you are trying to do.

The Search Tool is the best approach. If I search Bible Study Magazine I find references I know are there. The basic syntax is <Bible Jn 3:16> where you supply the Bible reference. I can find scripture references in Edersheim and Christian History Magazine using the same search sytax.

Note, however: Bible Study Magazine and Christian History Magazine are not Journals (they are type:Magazine), so would not be searched in the Journals section of the Passage Guide. You can make a collection of all your magazines and add that to the Passage Guide and then it would be searched.

Let us know a little more and maybe we can be of more help.

Wesley Grau

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178593#Comment_1178593

Hi Mark

I have tried both entering the bible passage in the general search on the Logos 9 tool bar, as well as, the passage guide. If I use the "cited by" tool as Bob suggested they do show up. If I use the passage guide and search "everything" it does show up, but with a large library I have to scroll through a lot of resources. I guess I need more instruction on searching and narrowing my searches to my preferred resources. Any suggestions would be helpful. I'm not seeing a magazine category under passage guide search so far, that is why I thought they were under journals.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178595#Comment_1178595

I'd suggest watching the tutorials on Searching available on the Logos website. There is also search info in Logos Help available on your Logos installed software, and on wiki.logos.com. You'll be glad to better understand how to directly use the search function.

Since you have a larger library, creating collections and searching just those collections will cut down on hits you are not interested in. The Logos training videos and the wiki will help you understand how to do this. Once you have collections created you can add them (one at a time) to the Passage Guide or other guides as you desire. (There are other ways to search selections of resources using the Library and its sidebar Filter. You, again, can learn about that online.) You can also add a collection to the cited by tool and just have it search what is in the collection.

To know what sort of category Logos puts a resource in, the easiest way is using Library. Use the Details view and be sure Type is listed. (Right click on the header to see what can be listed.)

You can customize the Passage Guide (and other guides) by clicking on the Add button that appears at the upper right once you run the guide. You can see there are many options in the Passage Guide including adding a collection. If you formed a collection of magazines (very easy to do), you could use the add button to add a collection, then navigate down to that new entry, hover over the word Collections, and you'll see "Settings" appear. Click on the small down arrow next to Settings and you'll see your Magazine collection listed. Select that, and now the Passage Guide will search your magazine collection.

I think you are relying too much on the Passage Guide and you should learn how to directly use the search tool in Logos. It is very powerful.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178595#Comment_1178595

Hi Wesley

Building on what Mark says - you can use the Basic Search and choose to just search in magazines. Then you can search for all references to a particular scripture as below

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178607#Comment_1178607

I'm gona try to search my pdf files on my C:/ drive. Wonder if this will work?

Bob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178624#Comment_1178624

One of the reasons I like the "Cited By" tool, is that I can have as many groupings as I want and I can expand collapse each section as I desire.

With a Basic Search, I have to change the search for each individual collection/etc.

I find the "Cited By" tool is easier to browse around different collections/tags/etc.

Bob

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178628#Comment_1178628

Well ... I'm not finding a way to search the pdf files on my C:/ drive. I have several gig of pdf files which I would like to search in Logos... but I'm not finding a way to do that.

Best I can come up with is to use Favorites and find a pdf I want to read, etc. but I don't think there is anything in Logos to search my pdf files.

Currently, I go outside Logos and use a program called Copernic... which will search through all my pdf files by keyword or phrase, etc.

But it would be a blessing to do that within Logos.

Maybe someone knows a way to do this?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178694#Comment_1178694

. I'm not finding a way to search the pdf files on my C:/ drive. I have several gig of pdf files which I would like to search in Logos... but I'm not finding a way to do that.

Logos does not provide a feature to search resources outside of the Logos environment. PDF's are outside the Logos environment.

Bob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178694#Comment_1178694

Well ... I'm not finding a way to search the pdf files on my C:/ drive. I have several gig of pdf files which I would like to search in Logos... but I'm not finding a way to do that.

Best I can come up with is to use Favorites and find a pdf I want to read, etc. but I don't think there is anything in Logos to search my pdf files.

Currently, I go outside Logos and use a program called Copernic... which will search through all my pdf files by keyword or phrase, etc.

But it would be a blessing to do that within Logos.

Maybe someone knows a way to do this?

you seem to have hijacked this thread. Maybe post a new thread for your issue.
Bob

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178694#Comment_1178694

Maybe someone knows a way to do this?

You'd need to invest in my Bible software (currently 1 major investor .... me). But it's fairly easy ... I also allow search multiple formats ... PDFs, txt's, etc. I'm guessing Logos doesn't, to avoid the overhead on security, format changes, etc. ... plus multiple platforms, etc

But VERY useful when you're working across multiple sources.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178628#Comment_1178628

With a Basic Search, I have to change the search for each individual collection/etc.

I find the "Cited By" tool is easier to browse around different collections/tags/etc.

I think you need 5 gold stars. They've been in the present search 'mold' since 2009 ... and they still can't group search results, and very minimal sorting. They really need to replace their design guy ... new ideas.