Why all the bundling? Request to Logos/Faithlife staff
Humble request to FL to stop with the unnecessary bundling of books and/or to break up bundles
Is it possible to please break up some of the bundles in Logos? Why the bundling in the first place? There are several books I’m interested in but they are tied into bundles and I don’t want to spend $100+ to get the one book I want to read (some examples below). If you are going to go the bundle route, could they be broken up after a period of time so I could buy individual books and journals?
Out of the examples below, I’d love to purchase…
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Mere Christianity found in https://www.logos.com/product/49027/the-cs-lewis-collection
I would love to give Logos more money for these resources but I find it silly I need to spend hundreds to get the one book I want. I know I’m not the typical seminary student user (at least that is what I think the typical user is) so this request may fall on dead ears but I hope Bob or someone from Faithlife sees this and tries to help out the little man. Thank you for listening
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Could you please unbundle these books too?
1. Torrance, Trinitarian Faith
https://www.logos.com/product/194659/the-trinitarian-faith-the-evangelical-theology-of-the-ancient-catholic-church
Product page and price but no way to purchase. from this bundle: https://www.logos.com/product/56785/tt-clark-cornerstones-series-part-1
2.Torrance, Doctrine of God (2nd ed)
https://www.logos.com/product/194646/the-christian-doctrine-of-god-one-being-three-persons
Product page and price but no way to purchase. from thiis bundle: https://www.logos.com/product/56785/tt-clark-cornerstones-series-part-1
3. God, Marriage, and Family: Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation from
https://www.logos.com/product/55810/crossway-andreas-j-kostenberger-collection
4. 50 Crucial Questions: An Overview of Central Concerns about Manhood and Womanhood from
https://www.logos.com/product/145878/crossway-gender-marriage-and-parenting-collection
Could you please unbundle the above books? Also, could you please unbundle "Advancing Trinitarian Theology" and "Christology Ancient and Modern" from the following bundle?
https://www.logos.com/product/50313/zondervan-theological-studies-collection
A request to unbundle Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic Update (7 vols.), specifically these two titles:
Advances in Biblical Hebrew Linguistics: Data, Methods, and Analyses (Moshavi & Notarius eds.)
The Relative Clause in Biblical Hebrew (Holmstedt)
Could you please unbundle these books too?
1. Torrance, Trinitarian Faith
https://www.logos.com/product/194659/the-trinitarian-faith-the-evangelical-theology-of-the-ancient-catholic-church
Product page and price but no way to purchase. from this bundle: https://www.logos.com/product/56785/tt-clark-cornerstones-series-part-1
2.Torrance, Doctrine of God (2nd ed)
https://www.logos.com/product/194646/the-christian-doctrine-of-god-one-being-three-persons
Product page and price but no way to purchase. from thiis bundle: https://www.logos.com/product/56785/tt-clark-cornerstones-series-part-1
3. God, Marriage, and Family: Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation from
https://www.logos.com/product/55810/crossway-andreas-j-kostenberger-collection
4. 50 Crucial Questions: An Overview of Central Concerns about Manhood and Womanhood from
https://www.logos.com/product/145878/crossway-gender-marriage-and-parenting-collectionCould you please unbundle the above books? Also, could you please unbundle "Advancing Trinitarian Theology" and "Christology Ancient and Modern" from the following bundle?
https://www.logos.com/product/50313/zondervan-theological-studies-collection
I noticed a few days ago that the two Torrance books are unbundled, thanks FL for making those available. Could you please unbundle the other books I mentioned as well?
God, Marriage, and Family: Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation
50 Crucial Questions: An Overview of Central Concerns about Manhood and Womanhood
Advancing Trinitarian Theology
Christology Ancient and Modern
Ben, Could these collections be broken-up (which could enable migration of the 30-volume collection [WS ID 0:355] from WordSearch)?
https://www.logos.com/product/167681/lifechange-bible-studies-collection
also consider the NT collection - https://www.logos.com/product/167680/lifechange-bible-studies-collection-new-testament
and the OT collection - https://www.logos.com/product/167679/lifechange-bible-studies-collection-old-testament
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Can this be broken up please?
https://www.logos.com/product/55818/crossway-bruce-a-ware-collection
Could this classic collection be broken up please?
https://www.logos.com/product/45334/classic-commentaries-and-studies-on-joshua-judges-and-ruth
Some of the commentaries are available separately already, but I'm trying to access the volume by Richard Bernard ('Ruth's Recompence')
Can this be broken up please?
https://www.logos.com/product/157104/focus-on-the-bible-commentaries-upgrade
When I came to Logos from WS, I was in "sticker shock". I have in my cart now some a bundle or two... but I simply cannot afford the bundle, nor do I want all the bundle in my library. And I was thinking I was the "poorest person in Logos" as I cannot afford the prices Logos has on bundles. And I may be.
It is not how many worthless books that we never use, that we have (I have too much of that already).... is it about find information that we need and want. Logos may be the "Cadillac" of the Bible software.... but I have never bought a Cadillac in my life... too expensive.
So I buy a book cause it's in a bundle... and pay the bundle price... when all I want is one book in the bundle... I have actually paid more for the book I want because I don't want (and probably will not use) the other books in the bundle. Does that make economical sense?
I would like to see less bundling of books. I would like to see a softer pricing also. I don't buy what I cannot afford.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
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So I buy a book cause it's in a bundle... and pay the bundle price... when all I want is one book in the bundle... I have actually paid more for the book I want because I don't want (and probably will not use) the other books in the bundle. Does that make economical sense?
I look at this from a slightly different angle. I am quite pleased to have a lot of dross in my library. It gives me some confidence to know that even though I would not voluntarily read Andy Capp's 'Dissertation on Sanctification' having it in my library when I come across something like 'Andy Capp and other's views have little to support them see DoS page 666' means that I can check out what is being denigrated and recognise any subsequent authors who might posit Cappism.
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Could we get the Crossway Studies on the Bible unbundled?
https://www.logos.com/product/55577/crossway-studies-on-the-bible
Could we get the Crossway Studies on the Bible unbundled?
https://www.logos.com/product/55577/crossway-studies-on-the-bible
As far as I can see the resources in this set are available for individual purchase as well.
Are you not seeing this?
As far as I can see the resources in this set are available for individual purchase as well.
Are you not seeing this?
Some are, but I’m interested in the Dever ‘The Message of the Old/New Testament‘ that seems to only be in the bundle. I don’t see that available individually?
Hi Dave,
I've split this out. I need to wait for a bit to make them sellable. Thanks!.
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I know this hasn't shipped yet but I would love to see this un-bundled Mr. Ben. I'm interested in the Free Will book for a study group. Thank you
https://www.logos.com/product/195846/pr-reformed-theology-collection
Could you please make this book available apart from the collection? It has a separate product page but it's not available for purchase.
A Theological Guide to Calvin’s Institutes: Essays and Analysis by David W. Hall
https://www.logos.com/product/209839/a-theological-guide-to-calvins-institutes-essays-and-analysis
Could you please make these 2 books available apart from the UBS collection? They have separate product pages but aren't available for purchase.
Fauna and Flora of the Bible by The Committee on Translations of the United Bible Societies https://www.logos.com/product/179669/fauna-and-flora-of-the-bible
Old Testament Quotations in the New Testament by Robert G. Bratcher
https://www.logos.com/product/179672/old-testament-quotations-in-the-new-testament
Can this be unbundled? https://www.logos.com/product/177584/good-book-guides
Can this resource - Sermon On The Mount: Restoring Christ's Message to the Modern Church be taken out of a bundle [NAC Studies in Bible & Theology (NACSBT) (7 vols.)] .
I think it might have been sold individually at one point, since it is cited 15x in Pennington's mobile ed course on the Sermon on the Mount. Now it is only able to be purchased in a bundle.
Still hopeful; please unbundle: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/select-works-of-sean-and-josh-mcdowell
DAL
Can you unbundle this: https://www.logos.com/product/1281/possessing-the-promise-of-god ?
Re: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/202786/1179253.aspx#1179253
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Can this resource - Sermon On The Mount: Restoring Christ's Message to the Modern Church be taken out of a bundle [NAC Studies in Bible & Theology (NACSBT) (7 vols.)] .
I think it might have been sold individually at one point, since it is cited 15x in Pennington's mobile ed course on the Sermon on the Mount. Now it is only able to be purchased in a bundle.
The above resource can now be ordered individually (still in pre pub.)
Can this resource - Sermon On The Mount: Restoring Christ's Message to the Modern Church be taken out of a bundle [NAC Studies in Bible & Theology (NACSBT) (7 vols.)] (....)
The above resource can now be ordered individually (still in pre pub.)
The link is https://www.logos.com/product/214141/sermon-on-the-mount-restoring-christs-message-to-the-modern-church
I think it might have been sold individually at one point, since it is cited 15x in Pennington's mobile ed course on the Sermon on the Mount.
Yes, it used to be available as an eBook (like many B&H Academics resources prior to Lifeway's discontinuation of WordSearch) - and in this case the logos.com page does recognize ownership. The resource in my library claims to be a Logos edition, but in fact has no index and book-references and retains the eBook-style footnotes, was last changed in 2016. Thus I expect a technical update to happen when the PrePub goes live.
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Still hopeful; please unbundle: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/select-works-of-sean-and-josh-mcdowell
DAL
Still hoping some more 👍
Herbert Lockyer’s collection has been out for a while now and the title have been broken up but with no option to buy. Can FL please make them available for individual purchase by activating the buy button: https://www.logos.com/product/176897/herbert-lockyer-collection
Thanks!
DAL
Bump.
Any chance we can get this one made live for sale?
Hebrews: An Introduction and Study Guide
Thanks.
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Any chance we can get this broken up after it ships in two weeks?
https://www.logos.com/product/195846/pr-reformed-theology-collection
After reading through this topic.... I would suggest it would be wise for Faithlife to hear all this and I hope they do.
My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle... individually. The price for individual might be higher than if that book was in a bundle... but so be it. I would think the bunkles, although a higher price for more books, would be cheaper per book...
Just my thoughts....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle...
I wonder what the cost/return result would look like if every book had to be given a separate sale page.
I am sure that there are many many of those books that would never justify their price if sold outside a bundle. They may though have some value in a bundle even if only one of the more useful books has a link too material in them.
Having written the above I wonder what the milage would be in offering bundles that were guaranteed to have all the resources referenced in a major work included in them. I would certainly look closely at a Tom Wright set that included all the works referenced in his major set. :-)
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My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle... individually.This is our goal. If you see a situation where that's not the case, please feel free to post it in this thread.
well since you are encouraging this, I would like to suggest again that these two be broken up:
1. https://www.logos.com/product/50147/select-works-of-sean-and-josh-mcdowell
2. https://www.logos.com/product/176897/herbert-lockyer-collection
It’s been a while and they’re still bundled up.
Thanks!
DAL
My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle... individually.This is our goal. If you see a situation where that's not the case, please feel free to post it in this thread.
Thank you Ben! Looking forward to What about Free Will? when the below gets broken up
https://www.logos.com/product/195846/pr-reformed-theology-collection
My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle... individually.This is our goal. If you see a situation where that's not the case, please feel free to post it in this thread.
Thank you Ben! Looking forward to What about Free Will? when the below gets broken up
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https://www.logos.com/product/195846/pr-reformed-theology-collection
Now that this has been released, any chance of an unbundle? I see the resource but it is unpurchasable
FL, could you please make this book available outside the bundle? It has a product page but isn't for sale individually.
"Narnia and Beyond: A Guide to the Fiction of C. S. Lewis" by Thomas Howard
https://www.logos.com/product/208195/narnia-and-beyond-a-guide-to-the-fiction-of-c-s-lewis
My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle... individually.This is our goal. If you see a situation where that's not the case, please feel free to post it in this thread.
Thank you Ben! Looking forward to What about Free Will? when the below gets broken up
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https://www.logos.com/product/195846/pr-reformed-theology-collection
Now that this has been released, any chance of an unbundle? I see the resource but it is unpurchasable
Just checking back on this one. It is unbundled but unable to be purchased at moment
Would it be at all possible to purchase this resource without purchasing the entire collection?
https://www.logos.com/product/207221/hebrews-growing-up-in-christ
Pretty please[:)]
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
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Hi Ben,
Is the New Interpret's Bible always going to be on bundle? See here: https://www.logos.com/product/8803/new-interpreters-bible-a-commentary-in-twelve-volumes
Thanks!
Shalom Dave!
I do not have the NIB in my library but I know that it is very unlikely that the individual volumes will ever be sold separately.
See the following thread for more information(/speculation): https://community.logos.com/forums/p/185425/1069309.aspx#1069309
My dream would be to be able to buy any book that is in any bundle... individually.This is our goal. If you see a situation where that's not the case, please feel free to post it in this thread.
Hello Ben. I very much would like to purchase individually "Testaments of Love" by Leon Morris.
https://www.logos.com/product/225360/testaments-of-love-a-study-of-love-in-the-bible
I have no need for the other two resources with which it is currently bundled:
https://www.logos.com/product/186235/selected-works-of-leon-morris
Hi Willie
I am pretty sure that when Ben suggested reaching out he didn't mean by posting in this Forum.
I think a quick word with Customer Services might be a good deal more productive.
These forums are designed to be peer to peer interactions and while we are blessed with a good attendance of staff that attendance is by no means guaranteed.
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Mike
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I am pretty sure that when Ben suggested reaching out he didn't mean by posting in this Forum.
He literally said, "If you see a situation where that's not the case, please feel free to post it in this thread."
And that was just back in December of last year, not like it was years ago and he's no longer following this thread.
It would be nice if this could get unbundled:
https://www.logos.com/product/54050/thomas-b-warren-collection