Why all the bundling? Request to Logos/Faithlife staff
Humble request to FL to stop with the unnecessary bundling of books and/or to break up bundles
Is it possible to please break up some of the bundles in Logos? Why the bundling in the first place? There are several books I’m interested in but they are tied into bundles and I don’t want to spend $100+ to get the one book I want to read (some examples below). If you are going to go the bundle route, could they be broken up after a period of time so I could buy individual books and journals?
Out of the examples below, I’d love to purchase…
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Mere Christianity found in https://www.logos.com/product/49027/the-cs-lewis-collection
I would love to give Logos more money for these resources but I find it silly I need to spend hundreds to get the one book I want. I know I’m not the typical seminary student user (at least that is what I think the typical user is) so this request may fall on dead ears but I hope Bob or someone from Faithlife sees this and tries to help out the little man. Thank you for listening
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I've come across this issue with Mobile Ed. Sometimes a course uses a book which isn't sold individually (on Logos).
I've found that the individual books are still sold on Vyrso. I don't know if this is an oversight, but I've been able to get single books for courses there, instead of having to order the pre-pub bundle containing the book on Logos.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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In my opinion, bundling is motivated by earnings. It's clearly not a publisher requirement (in most or all cases). Bundling is good for Logos but bad for customers. Christians are accountable to God with their finances. When customers throw money at a package for the benefit of a few usefull resources they are practicing bad stewardship.
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Agree. Passed up several seminary class books in Logos because of this.
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Mattillo said:
Why the bundling in the first place?
One reason is it makes the books less expensive and a lot of us like that [:O]
Some of those collections are in one big collection: https://www.logos.com/product/120478/crossway-library-expansion-bundle
that is mucho more cheaper. I bought the DeYoung book sometime ago in a dead tree format which was quite inexpensive and a nice format for a reading book.0 -
Mattillo said:
Humble request to FL to stop with the unnecessary bundling of books and/or to break up bundles
I, too, find this off-putting. There may be times (in your example, Lewis might be in this category) where the publisher will not license a book for individual sale.
However, when there are no publisher issues I'd like FL to offer every book individually (even if they also offer a bundle).
Some time ago 'unbundling' was a big topic on the Forums and we were even getting "This bundle is now available for individual sale" notices here. I thought FL had turned the corner then and was going to 'unbundle' as much as possible. It appears that we've gone back to having to ask for unbundling.
I'd like to get some feedback from FL on this.
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FAITHLIFE really needs to address this topic, and I mean address it!
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Mark Smith said:
...when there are no publisher issues I'd like FL to offer every book individually (even if they also offer a bundle).
Yes, please.
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I can imagine at least 2 reasons.
- Publisher requires it
- Faithlife thinks they are creating value.
- FL needs cash and uses this as a way to push customers to buy more than they need.
#3 is what I would assume based on other actions that also point to this. The past year or more they hove become far more aggressive in cost cutting and revenue growing actions.
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I am so SICK of this!!!!!!
Especially with the Crossway collections, this is soooooo frustrating.
I've spent thousands on Logos resources and used to recommend it to people like crazy. Making customers jump through all of these hoops and spend so much extra money is a HUGE damper on my love for a great product and definitely affects the way I speak about Logos.
For the sake of your product, please stop forcing us to buy these collections.
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I talked with my wallet- all they have to do is look at what I spend with them NOW- 1/10th what I use to- to expensive to do business with!
You really want to change them- don't buy- may take a while- but they'll come around.
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As others have mentioned, it could be a publisher issue. However, if the resource is recommended or required for Mobile Ed courses, then I think the resource should be able to purchased individually.
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Ronald Quick said:
As others have mentioned, it could be a publisher issue. However, if the resource is recommended or required for Mobile Ed courses, then I think the resource should be able to purchased individually.
The publishers should be strongly motivated to sell these ''companion'' volumes as a single-o. I believe the professors should be encouraged / told not to specify a book that only comes in a bundle.
Here is an opportunity to wear the customers' shoes. This should have been ironed out before the 1st Mobile Ed course was introduced.
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I do not buy COLLECTIONS, and I don't buy BUNDLES. It is as simple as that. Hence, Faithlife looses a lot of money; because I hardly ever buy anything on Logos or Vyrso anymore.
If I can't buy it on Logos or Vyrso individually; I will buy it elsewhere.
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Bundles are often broken up over time. Clearly volume commitments benefit both publisher and Faithlife. I had to wait out some stuff, but eventually got the few volumes I wanted.
We readily accept base packages, so complaining about bundles is rather suspect.
FWIW, as a Logos user, I'm all for seeing important resources being made available whether I can afford them or not. Time and again, whatever I needed (and then some), God has provided for me.
To some extent, even the surplus books help pave the way for a better version of Logos and all the books you really do need. Count your blessings!
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I like bundles but I agree they need to be offered individually also as a bundle is not always the right choice for everyone in every situation. Crossway don't force their customers to buy e-books directly from them in bundles, so why should FL customers have to buy a bundle of Crossway books and not get the option to purchase books individually.
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Into Grace said:
In my opinion, bundling is motivated by earnings. It's clearly not a publisher requirement (in most or all cases). Bundling is good for Logos but bad for customers. Christians are accountable to God with their finances. When customers throw money at a package for the benefit of a few usefull resources they are practicing bad stewardship.
Bob has been open about this in the past.
As I understand it, bundling is not (always) a publisher requirement, but it is always an incentive to publishers. Bundling high value books (frontlist titles), with lower value books (backlist titles) means that the publisher can shift titles which otherwise few people would buy. That (at least in theory) means more money for the publishers, and keeps their less-well known authors happy too. Being able to promise that helps Faithlife persuade publishers to let them stock frontlist titles.
The other advantage of bundling is that it allows relatively obscure books to be produced, with otherwise wouldn't have a sufficiently large market. Because a portion of the bundle income can be assigned to the costs of transcribing these books, they can now be profitable. That's not much use if you don't intend to read the book, but if you're one of the minority who wants it, it's a good thing.
I think the general policy is that bundles should be unbundled after a year or so, although that doesn't always happen, particularly for bundles that don't sell well.
Perhaps it helps to think of bundling as the modern equivalent of publishing expensive hardbacks before the cheaper paperbacks — which is little more than a way of getting early purchasers to pay more whilst getting a little more.
At the moment, I see bundles it as a necessary evil. When the discount is good, I don't mind it at all. What really annoys me are large bundles with a very poor discount level. Those I never buy.
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Mark Barnes said:
I think the general policy is that bundles should be unbundled after a year or so, although that doesn't always happen, particularly for bundles that don't sell well.
If the bundles don't sell well, maybe Faithlife should break them up and see if people only wanted that one book.
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https://www.logos.com/product/52352/fortress-studies-on-passages-in-the-gospels
Which will be pulled from prepub on march 20 if not under contract numbers by then. Is a great example of bundling. 3 quality books being offered at a deep discount (Compared to kindle prices). I likely would use all three but two of the volumes feel to me like must haves. Could we have the deep discount on the titles individually, would any of them made it to production unbundled? I will admit many times I have not got a book I want because it's in a big bundle.
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This is all really helpful feedback.
I have a few thoughts in response:
- In every case where it's possible, our intent is to eventually break up the collection into individual titles at some point after the pre-pub ships. Because breaking up collections is a time-intensive manual process (for now, we hope to automate it) it often has to be deprioritized in favor of other projects. Nevertheless, it is our hope (aspiration?) to have everything split into individual volumes.
- There are a number of reasons why we bundle books.
- In some cases (C.S. Lewis is the best example) it is a publisher stipulation.
- In other cases, it is because it belongs to a set and makes the most sense to offer them as a bundle.
- In other cases, it is because we can offer the best deal on a book as part of a bundle. For example, there may be a book that sells standalone for $50 but that we can bundle with 5 other books for $100. I realize that not everyone always wants all 5 books and that, consequently, it isn't actually a good deal for them. We're actually revisting the strategy here. You will likely see some changes over the next few months.
- In some cases, we have a bunch of second-tier backlist content that wouldn't really make a whole lot of progress on pre-pub if they were all individual titles. In this case, we bundle them all together as a sort of 'grab bag' for people interested.
- There are times where we have broken up a pre-pub collection into individual volumes to see if we can gather a bit more support and get it into production. We could probably do this more. Again, we will be reevaluating this over the coming months.
- It makes a lot of sense to ensure that resources that are part of Mobile Ed courses are always available as standalone products. I'll have the team do a review and make sure that is the case.
I could write a bit more, but I would be repeating much of what Mark Barnes says above.
Again, this is all really helpful feedback. We are listening and will continue to make adjustments to our pre-pub program.
Senior Director, Content Products
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One more thought:
There are some difficulties in offering individual volumes on pre-pub that are also part of a larger collection. If an individual volume gets funded before the entire collection, there is no way for us to give just the individual volume to someone who ordered the larger collection because their order is still a pre-pub order (and hasn't been processed or charged).
If I had pre-ordered the larger collection, I would (understandably) be upset that I had to wait to get the individual book. Moreover, if that larger collection never got enough orders to get funded, I'd have to go back and order the individual volume at full price.
This particular problem is unique to the pre-pub program. While I can imagine scenarios to solve this problem, our current system does not allow us to implement them.
To some degree, this particular problem will be solved as we offer more books on pre-order.
Senior Director, Content Products
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One more thought:
There are some difficulties in offering individual volumes on pre-pub that are also part of a larger collection. If an individual volume gets funded before the entire collection, there is no way for us to give just the individual volume to someone who ordered the larger collection because their order is still a pre-pub order (and hasn't been processed or charged).
If I had pre-ordered the larger collection, I would (understandably) be upset that I had to wait to get the individual book. Moreover, if that larger collection never got enough orders to get funded, I'd have to go back and order the individual volume at full price.
This particular problem is unique to the pre-pub program. While I can imagine scenarios to solve this problem, our current system does not allow us to implement them.
Ben customers don't need why we can't do this answer from FL all of the time, we need what we can do now to make the user experience better and not promises of what we will do next week and then when next week arrives sorry we didn't do that other things moved to the top of the pile. FL need to let their yes be yes or stop saying they will do things they can't deliver. And what you can do now is look into what larger bundles can be broken up, and get back to communicating with customers via both the forum and the blogs when such collections are broken up for individual sales - not every collection will be able to be broken up right now - but surely there are some that you can do something about now.
To some degree, this particular problem will be solved as we offer more books on pre-order.
And look at how that is working out currently, in another forum post you have announced there are too many titles on pre-pub and so they are not getting traction and you are going to remove them unless customers can do the work for you and get enough support to move these titles into production, giving customers 1 months notice to do what FL has failed to do over a lot longer period of time.
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
To some degree, this particular problem will be solved as we offer more books on pre-order.
And look at how that is working out currently, in another forum post you have announced there are too many titles on pre-pub and so they are not getting traction and you are going to remove them unless customers can do the work for you and get enough support to move these titles into production, giving customers 1 months notice to do what FL has failed to do over a lot longer period of time.
Just to be clear, I'm referring to pre-order as opposed to pre-pub. As we identify books for pre-order and produce them up front, we'll be able to sell the books as a collection and as individual titles as it will eliminate the problem I described above.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Thank you for responding Ben. You commented on the CS resource I posted but any thoughts on the other three? I understand that bundling can help push resources and make them cheaper. My hope is that you break these bundles up when possible for those of us who don't want all of these books. Maybe you could post a date on these bundles as to when you expect them to dissolve? Thank you for listening
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- It makes a lot of sense to ensure that resources that are part of Mobile Ed courses are always available as standalone products. I'll have the team do a review and make sure that is the case.
Ben,
Just my 2cents worth: Perhaps it would be helpful to bundle the books associated with Mobile Ed courses WITH the course. If I purchase a course on Matthew's Gospel, it would be great if I knew that with one click I was getting the lectures, required readings, and all other needed course materials with "one stop shopping" so to speak.
Just a thought that might be worth consideration.
As a side note, sometimes I personally would be willing to pay a couple dollars more for an individual volume to avoid spending a giant chunk on a bundle I don't need - especially right now when cash is tight, and there are some titles I want/need for schoolwork. You may find that you are able to charge a marginally higher amound for some titles in an unbundled form even if you offer it at a theoretically cheaper price when bundled with other works.
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In other cases, it is because we can offer the best deal on a book as part of a bundle. For example, there may be a book that sells standalone for $50 but that we can bundle with 5 other books for $100.
This kind of reasoning is the root problem. Maybe it's a Common-Core thing. Every way I analyze it, $100 is not a better deal than $50, especially by your own admission that,
...the rest of the bundle is worthless.we have a bunch of second-tier backlist content that wouldn't really make a whole lot of progress on pre-pub if they were all individual titles
Put me in with the others who WILL NOT buy anything I don't want just to get one I do. You (FL) are losing money on me, along with others, who don't have access to individual titles that we would buy except for the bundling.
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I realize that not everyone always wants all 5 books and that, consequently, it isn't actually a good deal for them. We're actually revisting the strategy here. You will likely see some changes over the next few months.
Ben,
This is encouraging news. I purchased Runge’s HDNT (3 volume set) a couple of years ago and am now ready to purchase his HDOT (3 volume). Unfortunately, it is no longer available as a separate purchase and is part of several expensive bundles of which I have no interest in buying. I only need the HDOT by itself.
Since the HDOT and HDNT 3 volume sets have already previously been available separately and are Lexham products, it seems like it would be easy to separate them from the current bundles. This issue has been discussed in a separate thread as well (https://community.logos.com/forums/p/127518/886384.aspx).
Thank you
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Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
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Doc B said:
In other cases, it is because we can offer the best deal on a book as part of a bundle. For example, there may be a book that sells standalone for $50 but that we can bundle with 5 other books for $100.
This kind of reasoning is the root problem. Maybe it's a Common-Core thing. Every way I analyze it, $100 is not a better deal than $50, especially by your own admission that,
...the rest of the bundle is worthless.we have a bunch of second-tier backlist content that wouldn't really make a whole lot of progress on pre-pub if they were all individual titles
Put me in with the others who WILL NOT buy anything I don't want just to get one I do. You (FL) are losing money on me, along with others, who don't have access to individual titles that we would buy except for the bundling.
Agree with this so much. I can justify 20 bucks, can't justify, 100, 200 or more. I have had to turn to Amazon many times because of this logic. I guess it pays off for Faithlife in the end? It seems though that it would eventually lead people away.
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It makes a lot of sense to ensure that resources that are part of Mobile Ed courses are always available as standalone products. I'll have the team do a review and make sure that is the case.
PD101 links to Comfort from Romans, which is only available in a bundle. Can that resource please become a standalone product? Thanks!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
It makes a lot of sense to ensure that resources that are part of Mobile Ed courses are always available as standalone products. I'll have the team do a review and make sure that is the case.
PD101 links to Comfort from Romans, which is only available in a bundle. Can that resource please become a standalone product? Thanks!
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll get it in the queue to be split out.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Ben what about these?Mattillo said:Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
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Mattillo said:
Ben what about these?Mattillo said:Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
Yes, definitely (sorry I missed this earlier).
Senior Director, Content Products
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Thank you Ben. Hopefully those can be at some point
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We apparently can't buy OT355's EBCREV06 resource separately, as there is an "Only sold as part of the collection" icon.
However, that commentary volume is the most-linked resource for the course, at 49x. What are we supposed to do when we have pre-ordered the course, but can't afford to buy a whole commentary set to get access to a single critical volume?
Can the publisher please relax that restriction?
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Can the publisher please relax that restriction?
I have yet to ever see Faithlife do this, but I suppose stranger things have happened.. Worse case scenario you could buy the kindle edition of the Isaiah commentary from the EBCR for $11.89... or the whole volume in Kindle for $22.93, so Zondervan is apparently not opposed to singular sales or even partial book sales, this should be available for sale if it is part of a course. Is it just often referenced or required?
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- There are a number of reasons why we bundle books.
- In some cases (C.S. Lewis is the best example) it is a publisher stipulation.
- In other cases, it is because it belongs to a set and makes the most sense to offer them as a bundle.
- In other cases, it is because we can offer the best deal on a book as part of a bundle. For example, there may be a book that sells standalone for $50 but that we can bundle with 5 other books for $100. I realize that not everyone always wants all 5 books and that, consequently, it isn't actually a good deal for them. We're actually revisting the strategy here. You will likely see some changes over the next few months.
- In some cases, we have a bunch of second-tier backlist content that wouldn't really make a whole lot of progress on pre-pub if they were all individual titles. In this case, we bundle them all together as a sort of 'grab bag' for people interested.
- There are times where we have broken up a pre-pub collection into individual volumes to see if we can gather a bit more support and get it into production. We could probably do this more. Again, we will be reevaluating this over the coming months.
Back in the first great Pre-Pub purge, a lot of bundles of specifically Catholic stuff were wiped out because they couldn't get any traction... because they were mixing vastly different types of theology and types of theologians. Some died because you had one or two very popular and saleable works (e.g., Ralph McInerny's Ethica Thomistica) mixed in with lots of stuff that was... vastly more expensive and far less saleable.
I hope the revisiting doesn't leave out Verbum.
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Mattillo said:
Ben what about these?Mattillo said:Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
Yes, definitely (sorry I missed this earlier).
How about unbundling all of the Crossway titles? I do not have a list of all the ones I have wanted to purchase over the last couple years for a seminary class, but did not because they were part of a large bundle. One recent example is Gregg Allison's Sojourners and Strangers: The Doctrine of the Church which is only a part of this larger bundle: https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Thank for your consideration, Faithlife!
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PetahChristian said:
It makes a lot of sense to ensure that resources that are part of Mobile Ed courses are always available as standalone products. I'll have the team do a review and make sure that is the case.
PD101 links to Comfort from Romans, which is only available in a bundle. Can that resource please become a standalone product? Thanks!
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll get it in the queue to be split out.
Did it make it into the queue, and is waiting for someone to get to it? Just trying to stay on top of outstanding issues, so they don't fall off my radar.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
We apparently can't buy OT355's EBCREV06 resource separately, as there is an "Only sold as part of the collection" icon.
However, that commentary volume is the most-linked resource for the course, at 49x. What are we supposed to do when we have pre-ordered the course, but can't afford to buy a whole commentary set to get access to a single critical volume?
Can the publisher please relax that restriction?
Can anything be done about this? Is it FL's policy to ensure that Mobile Ed course resources are sold separately?
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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I never heard back on the ones I suggested earlier so I'm guessing they are a no?
What about this one: https://www.logos.com/product/55832/crossway-apologetics-collection-2
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Any chance of breaking this one up?
https://www.logos.com/product/55810/crossway-andreas-j-kostenberger-collection
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Mattillo said:
Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
Also still wondering on these
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PetahChristian said:PetahChristian said:
We apparently can't buy OT355's EBCREV06 resource separately, as there is an "Only sold as part of the collection" icon.
However, that commentary volume is the most-linked resource for the course, at 49x. What are we supposed to do when we have pre-ordered the course, but can't afford to buy a whole commentary set to get access to a single critical volume?
Can the publisher please relax that restriction?
Can anything be done about this? Is it FL's policy to ensure that Mobile Ed course resources are sold separately?
I'm looking into this right now. I'm not sure why we aren't currently selling that resource as a standalone product.
Senior Director, Content Products
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PetahChristian said:PetahChristian said:
It makes a lot of sense to ensure that resources that are part of Mobile Ed courses are always available as standalone products. I'll have the team do a review and make sure that is the case.
PD101 links to Comfort from Romans, which is only available in a bundle. Can that resource please become a standalone product? Thanks!
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll get it in the queue to be split out.
Did it make it into the queue, and is waiting for someone to get to it? Just trying to stay on top of outstanding issues, so they don't fall off my radar.
We do have it in the queue to be split up. I can't give you an estimate yet of when it will happen.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Mattillo said:Mattillo said:
Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
Also still wondering on these
All the Crossway bundles will eventually be split up, it's just a matter of timing and prioritization at this point. I'm sorry I don't have anything more specific at this point.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Mattillo said:Mattillo said:
Any thoughts on breaking up these below bundles? If not now, when? Thank you
What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality? by Kevin DeYoung which is found in https://www.logos.com/product/55583/crossway-christian-life-collection
The Second Coming: Signs of Christ’s Return and the End of the Age by John MacArthur found in https://www.logos.com/product/55576/crossway-theology-collection-2
Bibliotheca Sacra 2015 journal articles found in https://www.logos.com/product/54391/master-journal-bundle-21
Select Works of Sean & Josh McDowell: https://www.logos.com/product/50147/
Also still wondering on these
All the Crossway bundles will eventually be split up, it's just a matter of timing and prioritization at this point. I'm sorry I don't have anything more specific at this point.
Thank you Ben. I added a few more before this post on an apologetics collection and the Kostenberger collection so hopefully those are on your radar as well. You specifically mention Crossway in your post so does that mean any non-crossway won't be broken up?
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Mattillo said:
You specifically mention Crossway in your post so does that mean any non-crossway won't be broken up?
Our goal is to split everything we can. I specifically mentioned Crossway because many of the books mentioned here are from the Crossway collections that recently shipped.
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Another I'd like to see broken up though this one is pretty good as a package
https://www.logos.com/product/55068/select-works-of-norman-l-geisler-ii
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Another one that needs to be broken up
https://www.logos.com/product/47531/kregel-apologetics-collection
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Mattillo: If God Why Evil? is on sale on Vyrso.
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