Black Friday sale

I've noticed that in some ways the sale page is a "taster". I picked up more $2.99 commentaries by sorting my wishlist by price than were shown on the actual sale page.

https://www.logos.com/black-friday

Edit: The page is now showing "see more" options.

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Robert M. Warren

Did anyone else notice that "You already own this product" is now "You have access to this product"?

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187162#Comment_1187162

Yep, I didn’t like the way that read (“sounded”); but not all products have it.

DAL

Sean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187162#Comment_1187162

Clicking through shows "You own this product." My guess would be that they don't want to have to distinguish between owning or renting (e.g. through Connect or Cloud) on the sale page.

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187167#Comment_1187167

Who's spent too much? 😀☹️ I don't know if I'm looking forward to Logos' Cyber Monday offerings or dreading them!

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187175#Comment_1187175

I don't know if I'm looking forward to Logos' Cyber Monday offerings or dreading them!

Is that anything like Willie Nelson's song "I Gotta Get Drunk and I Sure Do Dread It"?

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187162#Comment_1187162

Did anyone else notice that "You already own this product" is now "You have access to this product"?

Love your image. FL Marketing struggles so much, to shoot themselves in the foot. Access means here today, gone tomorrow. People value 'own' ... get nervous with 'access'. All mine were 'access' ... just TRY to get Libby's treasures. Ha.

In any event, BF is good entry stuff. Hopefully, many will be happy.

Martijn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187175#Comment_1187175

I spent nothing, first time in a while. Must stuff that is on sale, i already have (ICC, NIGTC etc). Mabey there will be somthing in the cybermonday sale for me. I was well pleased with the SBL sale, got some nice new books.

Michael G Parry-Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187162#Comment_1187162

Sorry I posted on another forum about this This is a copy

I think someone is trying to be clever with wording

In the sale "You have access to this product"

Used to say on the website you owned the product

Maybe my dyslexia is getting the better of me?

I thought access to product was when you have a subscription of some sort

mick

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187204#Comment_1187204

It is probably because users got confused when you won own this resource meant either that you owned it or that you had temporary (subscription) access to it.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187207#Comment_1187207

It is probably because users got confused when you won this resource

I didn't know you could actually "win" resources. How do you do that? [:)]

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187209#Comment_1187209

[:D]

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187204#Comment_1187204

I think someone is trying to be clever with wording

In the sale "You have access to this product"

Used to say on the website you owned the product

Maybe my dyslexia is getting the better of me?

I thought access to product was when you have a subscription of some sort

I immediately thought to check my Library for its license status, which was "Permanent". So we are supposed to infer its intent because a Price is not listed, but it is definitely ambiguous.

Sean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187167#Comment_1187167

Clicking through shows "You own this product." My guess would be that they don't want to have to distinguish between owning or renting (e.g. through Connect or Cloud) on the sale page.

Quoting myself as people seem to have missed this.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187207#Comment_1187207

It is probably because users got confused when you won own this resource meant either that you owned it or that you had temporary (subscription) access to it.

So they went from what was confusing to some to what is now ambiguous to many. Only FL could pull off that sort of move.

Simon’s Brother

I find sales pages not helpful anymore as they list only select items and then have different links for different groupings of resources to see more.

i just use this link to look at everything I don’t own sorted by savings descending order and exclude FL eBooks also.

https://www.logos.com/search?sortBy=Savings&limit=60&page=1&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=availableToMe&filters=status-live_Status%2Bformat-research_Format%2Bformat-reader_Format%2Bformat-reader_Format

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187224#Comment_1187224

So they went from what was confusing to some to what is now ambiguous to many.

I have no information on the overall reaction but I always assume the forums are biased towards those who dislike a change. From my perspective they went from something inaccurate and misleading to some to something accurate and confusing to some.

1Cor10 31

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187229#Comment_1187229

So they went from what was confusing to some to what is now ambiguous to many.

I have no information on the overall reaction but I always assume the forums are biased towards those who dislike a change. From my perspective they went from something inaccurate and misleading to some to something accurate and confusing to some.

I agree that they've tried to be more accurate but could end up confusing for some. But they can avoid all confusion by showing that it is "Owned" for those who own it and "Rented" for those who are renting it. After all, they are already using each user's information so that we each see the price that is relevant to us. So showing "Owned" vs. "Rented" should be easy programming.

Gordon Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187259#Comment_1187259

they can avoid all confusion by showing that it is "Owned" for those who own it and "Rented" for those who are renting it

[Y]

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187162#Comment_1187162

As per my comment at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/204143/1187273.aspx#1187273 it seems to have done to more correctly show information when group purchases are involved.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187229#Comment_1187229

It’s not more accurate as it depreciates many users ownership through a license to a genetic and confusing access through a license. As I said only FL could manage to make what was confusing to some ambiguous to many. Saying I have access to something is meaningless. I can go into a store a browse a book on the shelves. While I am browsing that book I have access to it. This is what FlL has now depreciated permanent license ownership to being when browsing their website. They know if a user has a permanent license, access through rental or temporary group access and should display accurate information rather than an inaccurate statement about access. It is not clear in any way to the person with temporary access that if they want permanent access they should consider purchasing the resource.

So they went from what was confusing to some to what is now ambiguous to many.

I have no information on the overall reaction but I always assume the forums are biased towards those who dislike a change. From my perspective they went from something inaccurate and misleading to some to something accurate and confusing to some.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187314#Comment_1187314

It’s not more accurate as it depreciates many users ownership through a license to a genetic and confusing access through a license.

Well, I always like humor. See it as your future, when Pacific Venture Partners (part of the Ceres Publishers Group) buys out FL, and converts your licenses to subscription. You'll be ready!

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187259#Comment_1187259

But they can avoid all confusion by showing that it is "Owned" for those who own it and "Rented" for those who are renting it.

That seems so obvious to you and me. It might mean that one of my prime conspiracy theories is correct. To wit: Marketeers are actually aliens from another planet. Or, maybe it's a deep fake, and the web programmers are the aliens. I'll buy either one.

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187309#Comment_1187309

Well shucks..... I don't know whether I have been ambiguized or just plain confused or both!

But I am sure it's one way or the other... [8-|]