Case Frame Analysis

Christian Alexander
Christian Alexander Member Posts: 746
edited November 21 in English Forum

How can I do a Case Frame Analysis in Logos?

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,140

    Case Frame/Semantic Role analysis requires no tools other than the bare text. Faithlife has preformed the analysis and made it available to us in the clause search, the Case frames section of the word sudy and previously in the semantic/grammatic role section of the Factbook. IIRC they no longer show in the Context Menu ... but I am sure there are other places that the data is exposed.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • I have to do a 20 page Case Frame/Semantic Role analysis of John 1:1-18. How would you begin?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,140
    1. Read the directions for coding case frames at Martha Palmer | Projects | Verb Net (colorado.edu) ... explore the site to find the appropriate pieces of information
    2. Break the text down into clauses
    3. Identify the verb in each clause
    4. identify the substantives (nouns, pronouns, implied subjects) in each clause
    5. assign a semantic role to each substantive
    6. collect the verbs together by lemma
    7. from your assignment of semantic roles build proposed case frames
    8. verify the likelihood of the case frames by checking against known sources - Logos and/or Martha Palmer's site; make any necessary adjustments

    But I'm am getting very curious as to why you are asking basic questions about your assignments. Are you actually trying to ask what tools in Logos to use in each step? Are you trying to use Logos to verify your work? Or are you asking how to do your assignment? I wonder because I don't want to assist you in using Logos to avoid doing the work yourself and failing to learn what the assignment is meant to teach.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Are you actually trying to ask what tools in Logos to use in each step?

    yes

    Are you trying to use Logos to verify your work? 

    yes

    I am also trying to use Logos as a stepping stone. I know how to do these assignments via pen and paper but do not get how to do them via logos.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,140

    but do not get how to do them via logos.

    Okay, the issue is that Logos provides the results of their analysis, not the thought processes for the intermediate steps between the text and the results. You can use Logos for the Greek text and it's note tool but you don't want to use its morphology, clause visualization, or case frames as they all do the work that you need to do if you are going to develop the skills the assignment intends you to learn.

    If I were your tutor and based on your questions, I would focus on teaching you to do your own research, to apply documentation, and to formulate questions clearly. That probably makes you glad I'm not your tutor!

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."