Finding a word in a certain position in a sentence

Is it possible to use a Morph Query to find a word (or type of word) in a certain position in the sentence?

For example, suppose I want δέ to be the third word, I don't care what occurs as the first and second word.

I know this can be done with a Syntax search, but setting these up can be finicky, I am hoping that other types of searches allow this.

Do Bible or Morphological searches allow searching for a word in a particular position in a verse?

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Phil Gons (Logos)

I'm not sure there's a way to find an absolute position in a verse rather than a relative position. You can find the places where δέ has at least two words before it, but I can't think of a way to find where it has exactly two words before it.

The way I'd solve this is in a spreadsheet. I find 50 occurrences in the SBL GNT where δέ is in the third position in the verse.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202660#Comment_1202660

I can't think of a way to find where it has exactly two words before it.

I figured it out.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202666#Comment_1202666

I figured it out.

I don't fully understand it, but I used Agree on None for the 4 Words instead of using Part of Speech.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202669#Comment_1202669

I don't fully understand it, but I used Agree on None for the 4 Words instead of using Part of Speech.

Dave, I don't understand how you set that up. Would you provide a screenshot?

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202676#Comment_1202676

Would you provide a screenshot?

I think this is what he did:

While it works in this case, I wouldn't trust it to work in all cases.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202682#Comment_1202682

Would you provide a screenshot?

I think this is what he did:

While it works in this case, I wouldn't trust it to work in all cases.

Thank you, Phil! Would I be out of place to ask why it should not be trusted to apply globally?

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202683#Comment_1202683

Would I be out of place to ask why it should not be trusted to apply globally?

Certainly not.

Like Dave, I'm not sure I fully understand what "Agree on None" means and does. So I can't be confident that it won't have unintended effects in other situations. I know it works here, since it produces the same 50 results as the other approach.

I'll see if I can get clarity on the precise meaning and function of "Agree on None" and report back.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202684#Comment_1202684

Perfect! Thanks

Andreas Roemer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202685#Comment_1202685

Hi,

I am a user from Germany and tried to recreate that once. I couldn't because I didn't even get to the input options for the lemmas. Where in logos does this go? Thanks for the helpful tip and God bless you
Andreas

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202697#Comment_1202697

Search --> Morph -->Query -->Create morph query document

Andreas Roemer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202698#Comment_1202698

Thanks alot. That helped me a lot.
Best regards