Syncing of books

Steve Bentley
Steve Bentley Member Posts: 31
edited November 21 in English Forum

Is any work being on tightening up the book syncing process? 

When you assign a letter link set to a book, and then move through scripture, some books follow along flawlessly. But then there are other books (commentaries) that "sort of" follow along, and yet another set of books that don't follow along at all.

For example, I am in Ephesians:

the Faith Life Study Bible follows along perfectly.

The William Hendriksen commentary "sort of" follows along. Sometimes it just plops itself in the area Smile

And then others like the Ephesians Letter by Lewis Chafer and Albert Barnes Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians commentary don't even come close.

And there are others that I just gave up on because it was too much work trying to always bring them into sync with where I was.

I've been holding off saying anything because I thought maybe it was just something that was being worked on, but this has gone on for quite a long time.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,133

    Have you looked at the text divisions (single verse vs. group of verses) and coverage (no entry for verse) to see if you can explain the behavior you are seeing? If something is unexplainable, please add a screen shot so we can determine what is going on.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Steve Bentley
    Steve Bentley Member Posts: 31

    Can you tell me how to do that? I'm pretty new to Logos

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,682

    And there are others that I just gave up on because it was too much work trying to always bring them into sync with where I was.

    Some books cannot sync because they do not have a common Index. For example, bibles and bible commentaries can sync on bible references, bible dictionaries can sync on "headwords" e.g. topic names like "salvation".  But an English dictionary will not sync with a Spanish dictionary! And books that only have page numbers will not sync (if they did the result would not make sense).

    The William Hendriksen commentary "sort of" follows along. Sometimes it just plops itself in the area Smile

    And then others like the Ephesians Letter by Lewis Chafer and Albert Barnes Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians commentary don't even come close.

    Getting bibles to sync flawlessly with commentaries is difficult because of the ad hoc use of bible references in commentaries. Example:

    Ro 6:1-14

       Ro 6:1

       Ro 6:2-3

    is OK because Logos can easily locate Ro 6:1 and 6:2 (albeit combined with v3).

    But

    Ro 6:1-14

      Ro 6:1-5

      Ro 6:6-7

    will only sync to Ro 6:1-14 (and you have to scroll a few pages for verses 1-5). But Logos will sync to Ro 6:6-7 for verse 6 and verse 7.

    So Logos will try to locate a verse match but will stop at the nearest inclusive reference i.e. 1-14 for verses 1 thru 5.

    Not sure why you had problems with Barnes in Ephesians. Perhaps you can be specific about the bible and the references you used.

    Dave
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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,133

    Okay:

    - your Bible is divided into verses

    - the Faithlife Study Bible - it generally has entries for each verse so it will follow the Bible closely.

    - the commentary of Barnes appears to have entries for most verses so it should follow closely

    The reference box in the resource can be set to reference (not to page) and scrolling down the resource shows what references are available.

    When the app can't find a reference, it plops in a "close" position; as there is no master, this may set other entries off; a multi-source panel will define your Bible as master and avoid the propagating of an error/estimate.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Steve Bentley
    Steve Bentley Member Posts: 31

    Thanks everyone for your feedback. I guess "it is what it is"