How is Content Tagged in Faithlife/What Department is Responsible for This

Obviously, Logos has a large amount of tagged content correlating various parameters to each other from Bible verses, to relevant books, down to datasets targeting instances of a certain person talking to another person.

What is the process for how this content is tagged? There are so many different directions that verses have to be tagged (i.e, a lot of different things to look for)—do the developers/programmers produce the majority of the datasets? Or is the content innovation team?

Is any of the content tagging algorithmic? What about all the endless books and resources, how does one correlate such data in a efficient way?

Just the amount of information that has to be considered would make me think you need people with biblical expertise, database programmers and thousands upon thousands of hours (which I know Faithlife would have all of these at their disposable). Maybe I'm overestimating the difficulty of dataset production/content tagging.

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DMB

Just the amount of information that has to be considered would make me think you need people with biblical expertise, database programmers and thousands upon thousands of hours (which I know Faithlife would have all of these at their disposable). Maybe I'm overestimating the difficulty of dataset production/content tagging.

Probably not much change since your previous query?

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139714/891287.aspx?ssi=0#891287

Adam S.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209481#Comment_1209481

I remember posting that now. I'm more specifically wondering about the specific role that tags content, i. e, developer, or someone else.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209484#Comment_1209484

I remember posting that now. I'm more specifically wondering about the specific role that tags content, i. e, developer, or someone else.

Much of the tagging has the method and people responsible in the documentation. For some, e.g. Andersen-Forbes, BHS, Swanson, et. al., the documentation is in the document itself or in academic papers on the resource. I know of no cases where the developer is also the person tagging the data. Faithlife has "data wranglers" as a separate department. The professional in charge of data has solid experience in semantic knowledgebases.

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209489#Comment_1209489

I remember posting that now. I'm more specifically wondering about the specific role that tags content, i. e, developer, or someone else.

Much of the tagging has the method and people responsible in the documentation. For some, e.g. Andersen-Forbes, BHS, Swanson, et. al., the documentation is in the document itself or in academic papers on the resource. I know of no cases where the developer is also the person tagging the data. Faithlife has "data wranglers" as a separate department. The professional in charge of data has solid experience in semantic knowledgebases.

No offense meant here.... Since I came to Logos.... I have wondered just how biased the people doing the content tagging are?? I am hoping that there is no bias at all.... but I am not naïve enough to know that some does not exist. So along with that.... are the majority of Logos people doing tagging and such... Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, or what?

It appears to me... from the books I see and from the searches and things I see.... that there is a bias towards Catholic, Reformed etc. And I know at least in the US that money talks, and I would expect so with Logos... and as such... I could see a bias as to what is tagged, worked on, available to purchase ... etc.. because of that.

In my wondering mind.... [8-|]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209507#Comment_1209507

In my wondering mind....

In your wondering mind, what tagging would you suggest, might be amenable to denominational bias? It seems a bit of a game you're playing, relative to the integrity of the staff?

As regards book-mix, I think you previously were thankful FL pursues the market, to stay in business.

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209510#Comment_1209510

In my wondering mind....

In your wondering mind, what tagging would you suggest, might be amenable to denominational bias? It seems a bit of a game you're playing, relative to the integrity of the staff?

As regards book-mix, I think you previously were thankful FL pursues the market, to stay in business.

Still am thankful FL pursues the market.... that didn't change... and not playing a game at all.... and like I said... I meant no offense... just being honest about my wondering.... I love my wife and trust my wife.... but I still wonder how much money she will spend when she goes to the store - [8-|]

Edit: When I search for something in Logos... I don't search because I am Jew, Muslem, Catholic, Protestant, or such.... I search because I want to find something to help me extrapolate the truth.... biases can convolute that process.... I'm a thinking...

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209507#Comment_1209507

I have wondered just how biased the people doing the content tagging are??

Wonder no more. It is biased toward simple, unambiguous, and pseudo-definitive which results in, what are to me, silly anachronisms such as coding Old Testament items as "Holy Spirit" which is Christian interpretation not text. Heeding the "take it with a grain of salt" rule, my sodium intake increased considerably when Logos became a major tool for me. However, the vast majority of the tagging is linguistically objective - a follower of the Great Spaghetti Monster could have tagged it and we would be unable to tell the difference. The biggest problem is with the user who is usually oblivious to their confirmation biases.

P.S. much of the coding is done by AI not humans.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1209513#Comment_1209513

When I search for something in Logos... I don't search because I am Jew, Muslem, Catholic, Protestant, or such.... I search because I want to find something to help me extrapolate the truth.... biases can convolute that process.... I'm a thinking...

Bias is unavoidable whether theologian, scholar, student, lay person....There are topics, points-of-view that you will reject without thinking, but a seeker will always be guided by the Holy Spirit (Jn 4:23-24, Jn 16:13). However, I think tagging would reflect a bias in conception more than anything else...

Should Mary be described as "the mother of Jesus", "God-bearer", "Queen of Heaven" or the "Virgin Mary" (see Factbook)? The first is used for tagging. Is that truth, bias or neutrality - acceptable to many?

Does "on you" (Num 11:17, ESV) refer to the Holy Spirit as well as Moses? Did somebody make a case for that or is it a mistake, because we see the same tagging for "on him" in verse 25? Further down, note that "on them" is not tagged for the Spirit. These are the cases that concern me. I wouldn't tag that way, so I would want to know that it is consistent if it is not a mistake.