Do Pentecostals use Logos?

Mick Kennedy said:

However, they are not included in the Pentecostal package as previously stated.

Maybe that will change with the release of Logos 10.

Mick Kennedy said:

Thank you very much for your help!

https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-book-requests/posts/do-pentecostals-really-use-logos

Bit of user interface info...above where you posted that link, in order for the link to become activated, you need to hit the space bar once after pasting in the link. Click the Edit link in the drop down menu under MORE in the upper right of the post and try it.

MJ. Smith said:

DAL said:

I just finished listening to “Strange Fire” by John MacArthur, and all those names are mentioned in his book.  I highly recommend it!

I was unfamiliar with the book and barely familiar with the author. DAL I am very sorry to see you slip into old habits. I was becoming rather fond of the new you. In the forums all users are to be welcomed. Right?

I only recommended a book I just discovered.  It contains a lot of information that was 1) new to me and 2) information I can relate to. 
Recommending a book is no sign of slipping into any habit.  I’m sorry that you see it that way.

DAL

Jan Krohn said:

DAL said:

I just finished listening to “Strange Fire” by John MacArthur, and all those names are mentioned in his book.  I highly recommend it!

In that case, let me recommend "Holy Fire" by R. T. Kendall, who offers a balanced response to McArthur. Also available in Logos.

I'd also like to throw in Michael Brown's "Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire" into the ring as well. 

MJ. Smith said:

DAL said:

 I’m sorry that you see it that way.

I have to see it that way to make sense of a response in the thread. And I do accept your explanation. However, I am delighted to see a counter-argument resource has been recommended to you.

Hey, it’s a new resource, so I don’t mind listening to the other side of the story, even if RT Kendall doesn’t cite his sources.  I think, Michael Brown has a response to “Strange Fire” also.  I might find him (Brown) more credible than Kendall.  Here’s the link: https://www.logos.com/product/52045/authentic-fire-a-response-to-john-macarthurs-strange-fire 

DAL

Frank Hodges said:

Jan Krohn said:

DAL said:

I just finished listening to “Strange Fire” by John MacArthur, and all those names are mentioned in his book.  I highly recommend it!

In that case, let me recommend "Holy Fire" by R. T. Kendall, who offers a balanced response to McArthur. Also available in Logos.

I'd also like to throw in Michael Brown's "Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire" into the ring as well. 

Ahhh—Beat me to it.  

Brown’s rejoinder to Johnny Mac is superb (wouldn’t be the first time JM has [unintentionally I believe] misrepresented Pentecostal beliefs).

DAL said:

Puddin’ said:

Frank Hodges said:

Jan Krohn said:

DAL said:

I just finished listening to “Strange Fire” by John MacArthur, and all those names are mentioned in his book.  I highly recommend it!

In that case, let me recommend "Holy Fire" by R. T. Kendall, who offers a balanced response to McArthur. Also available in Logos.

I'd also like to throw in Michael Brown's "Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire" into the ring as well. 

Ahhh—Beat me to it.  

Brown’s rejoinder to Johnny Mac is superb (wouldn’t be the first time JM has [unintentionally I believe] misrepresented Pentecostal beliefs).

Between Kendall and Brown, I don’t think they have made half a rejoinder (they don’t even amount to a quarter of rejoinder).  Take it from someone who was a pentecostal for 12 years. The things I’ve seen and the confessions I’ve heard from people I know only leads to one conclusion: MacArthur was very intentional in what he wrote and he meant every word he wrote. At the end of the day you’ll either agree with him or disagree with him — the ball is on the reader’s court. Based on my experience, I agree with 99% of what he wrote, and I’m not even a southern Baptist like MacArthur is.  
Anyway, I was hoping at least Brown would bring up something new, but neither him nor Kendall had much to say that I haven’t already heard before.

These three books along with Charismatic Chaos by MacArthur are a must read or listen for those who want to analyze both sides of the coin. 
I highly recommend these four books along with Keener’s book on miracles.

Peace to all of you!

DAL

Well, take it from someone who was, ummm, we’ll just say “denominal” for a number of years...until rigorous analysis of the Scriptures forced me to abandon many of the identical dogmas that MacArthur argues for in many of his works & speeches.

Personally, I have found MacArthur’s claims to be surprisingly weak & woefully uninformed as noted by Brown, et. al.  

Is there nonsense in some Pentecostal churches operating under the banner of a ”move of the Holy Ghost?”  Absolutely!

We’ve been attempting to salvage one for the last 6 years!  Indeed, I have taught from I Corinthians 12-14 more in the last 6 years than I ever have (with almost 25 years in ministry now).

However, under no circumstances does error, heteropraxy, or, shall we say, misplaced zeal, nullify genuine biblical orthodoxy.  We don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.  

I do agree that readers should examine both sides of the coin by availing themselves of the works cited in this thread.

My 2 cents.

Someone mentioned one of the authors doesn't cite their sources. My biggest complaint about MacArthur is that he doesn't generally do that either.

I find I agree with MacArthur more than I disagree. But at the end of the day, I sincerely wish he would cite his sources. Pastor JMac if you ever read this, citations are a beautiful thing.

abondservant said:

Someone mentioned one of the authors doesn't cite their sources. My biggest complaint about MacArthur is that he doesn't generally do that either.

I find I agree with MacArthur more than I disagree. But at the end of the day, I sincerely wish he would cite his sources. Pastor JMac if you ever read this, citations are a beautiful thing.

He did plenty of citations in Strange Fire.  In others, it’s like Kendall.  The excuse seems to be that they’re just sermons put together in book form and not written for an academic audience; hence, no citations are required.

It’s amazing I agree with him in many other things.  I even agree with Wayne Grudem, which is another name MacArthur mentions in his book.

DAL

David Thomas said:

MJ. Smith said:

In the forums all users are to be welcomed.

Including those who read (listen to) Logos resources that are beyond the familiarity of other users that address speakers mentioned by a third user.

The irony of that is that I never said, “you’re not welcomed here.”  All I did was merely point out that the names he mentioned were named in MacArthur’s book which I had recently just finished listening to👂 If people chose to interpret it differently that’s judging without knowing people’s motives and that’s a sin. But nobody focuses on that little but important detail.

DAL