Feature: Simpler Search

Ali Pope
Ali Pope Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,821
edited November 21 in English Forum

Simpler Search

A simpler search syntax and clearer UI makes searching quicker and more intuitive, opening up the power of Logos Search to you!

What is it?

You no longer need to remember angle brackets and curly braces, but use a simple keyword:value syntax familiar from Google and other search engines. 

For example,  <Person Moses> WITHIN {Speaker <Person Jesus>} becomes person:Moses IN speaker:Jesus, to find all the times Jesus talks about Moses. 

An improved autocomplete will intelligently suggest terms, which means that often you don’t even need to remember the simplified syntax.

“Search All’’ results pages intelligently surface results in the most relevant datasets, without you needing to know the dataset exists, nor the special syntax that dataset requires.

If you use the older syntax, Logos will automatically convert it to the new syntax for you.

How to access it?

  1. Open the Logos 10 Desktop app.

  2. Click on the Search icon (the magnifying glass) in the toolbar.

  3. Type in “person:Moses IN speaker:Jesus” and hit Enter/Return.

We’d love to hear your thoughts on this new feature. Please provide your feedback in the comments below.

Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager

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Comments

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    If you use the older syntax, Logos will automatically convert it to the new syntax for you.

    Thank you so much!

    Can you supply a link to exactly where you have compiled all of the new, simplified syntax in one spot for those of us who want to learn it?

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,365

    Can you supply a link to exactly where you have compiled all of the new, simplified syntax in one spot for those of us who want to learn it?

    The Logos Help resource, particularly the sections on Advanced Searching, Search Fields, and Searchable Labels.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    The Logos Help resource, particularly the sections on Advanced Searching, Search Fields, and Searchable Labels.

    Thank you!

    Advanced Searching

    Search Fields

    Searchable Labels

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • danwdoo
    danwdoo Member Posts: 568 ✭✭✭

    As a search newbie this looks fantastic and I can't wait to spend some time learning this more. Is it possible for us to turn off case sensitivity in searches? I can't think of why I personally would want to have it search exact case (though I know others may need this). At minimum I would add a brief note about case sensitivity in the initial guide for newbies like me as moses returns no hits (and gives a data type not found error) while Moses works. The suggestions in the drop-down do work regardless of case in the search box.

  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    Hi Ali, as a 30+ year user is this old syntax conversion going to be continued forward to v11+ - us oldies are set in our ways :P LMAO

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,365

    Is it possible for us to turn off case sensitivity in searches?

    There is a button in the top right corner of the search panel that controls case-sensitivity (it looks like "Aa"). You will want that option ("Match case") turned off.

    This won't be visible on some search kinds that don't support such as setting (like "All" search).

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,138

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,677

    There is also an updated L10 wiki page for searching - https://wiki.logos.com/New_Search_HELP

    Thanks, Bruce.

    The Logos/Verbum Help also refer to this wiki, which has more detail and example searches and was compiled during the beta testing.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Troy M
    Troy M Member Posts: 26 ✭✭

    I haven't spent much time in the new Search but I am impressed so far. I am liking version 10 overall. Many thanks to all of the development team and anyone else that contributed. [:)]

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭✭

    It's nice that we can now to Bible searches by Chapter in addition to by Verse. It would be EVEN better if we could search by Pericope (pericopes sometimes cross chapters, and chapters can be rather long). Is this a possible future enhancement, to do Bible searches by Pericope?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,121

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    Add multiple search scopes for Bible search | Faithlife

    What do you mean by "search scopes" ??   Maybe more templates?

    I find the templates to be very useful and helpful..... 

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,121

    the scope is the unit of text the search is looking for a match in - the Feedbear suggestion thinks of clause, sentence, paragraph, pericope, article/chapter ... as probable units. The adding of chapter to the already existing verse unit for the Bible search is an element of this request.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    the scope is the unit of text the search is looking for a match in - the Feedbear suggestion thinks of clause, sentence, paragraph, pericope, article/chapter ... as probable units. The adding of chapter to the already existing verse unit for the Bible search is an element of this request.

    Possibly adding "Book" to the "chapter - verse" would be good idea. Although that I think can be done with "Books" ...

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,677

    Possibly adding "Book" to the "chapter - verse" would be good idea. Although that I think can be done with "Books" ...

    Book is a much larger unit than chapter/verse as you imply, but Books Search uses articles as its unit (note that there is no choice like the Chapter/Verse in Bible Search).  An article will vary according to the resource as it could be a chapter, a paragraph, a page, or a heading - the Indexer makes that decision. And search results are grouped according to the "article" (look at results for different bible commentaries).

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    Possibly adding "Book" to the "chapter - verse" would be good idea. Although that I think can be done with "Books" ...

    Book is a much larger unit than chapter/verse as you imply, but Books Search uses articles as its unit (note that there is no choice like the Chapter/Verse in Bible Search).  An article will vary according to the resource as it could be a chapter, a paragraph, a page, or a heading - the Indexer makes that decision. And search results are grouped according to the "article" (look at results for different bible commentaries).

    Thanks for the clarification!  And as usual, you are right. I have a PB for each book in the Bible... and I add to those such as I find associated with each of them...  and when I search "Books" they show up. 

    And considering all this... then adding "Book" to the "Chapter - Verse" area would be a good idea.

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,121

    then adding "Book" to the "Chapter - Verse" area would be a good idea.

    I'm not sure you understand: example current options in bold

    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same clause
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same sentence
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same verse
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same paragraph
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same pericope
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same chapter
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same article
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same book(? I'm not sure of where I would be looking for them 97 pages apart ... I have one book that is a single article in which this actually happens)

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    then adding "Book" to the "Chapter - Verse" area would be a good idea.

    I'm note sure you understand: example current options in bold

    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same clause
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same sentence
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same verse
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same paragraph
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same pericope
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same chapter
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same article
    • Find "person:Jesus AND person:Peter" in the same book(? I'm not sure of where I would be looking for them 97 pages apart ... I have one book that is a single article in which this actually happens)

    I understand... 

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!