Feature: Draw on Screen on iPad
Draw on Screen on iPad
Demonstrate your exegesis and communicate your Bible insights visually!
What is it?
You can markup resource text with pen, pencil and highlighter with several color options. You can also copy, share, and save the image to photos or in a new note.
How to access it?
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Open the Logos mobile app on iPad.
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Select the book and portion of text that you want to mark up.
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Click on the More menu (three horizontal lines) in the bottom right corner.
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Scroll down to the “Tools” section and select “Draw On Screen”.
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The book and portion of text will “freeze”, allowing you to mark it up with the Draw On Screen options.
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To leave Draw On Screen mode, click on the Kebab menu (three horizontal dots) in the top right corner and click “Exit Drawing”.
Note
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This is not available on iPhone or Android phone and tablet.
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This is available in Bronze packages and above.
We’d love to hear your thoughts on this new feature. Please provide your feedback in the comments below.
Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager
Comments
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Do these markups then transfer to the Desktop version?
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Steven Baxley said:
Do these markups then transfer to the Desktop version?
No. This is a feature of iPadOS which FL has utlized.
EDIT: As Mark suggests below, the screenshot can sync to desktop, but it is not editible later on desktop.
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Steven Baxley said:
Do these markups then transfer to the Desktop version?
You can save a non-editable image to your notes file, which is then accessible across all your devices.
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OK, thank you for the replies.
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Ali Pope said:
We’d love to hear your thoughts on this new feature. Please provide your feedback in the comments below.
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David Thomas said:Ali Pope said:
We’d love to hear your thoughts on this new feature. Please provide your feedback in the comments below.
E-ink on Microsoft Surface with stylus? We've only been pleading 10 years (Since L5) - https://community.logos.com/forums/p/67806/471833.aspx#471833
You do know about https://wiki.logos.com/Drawing_Mode , right? That's of course only part of what this feature does on iPad. I guess to save you would need to make a screenshot...
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Do you need the bronze package if you are subscribed to Logos Connect?
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Do you need the bronze package if you are subscribed to Logos Connect?
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My favorite new v. 10 feature by far!!
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For those of us Android users...a workaround perhaps.
It sounds like the iPad takes a screenshot and then you can annotate it. Android can already do this. Take a screenshot, then annotate the image.
I'm using a Samsung S7+ and it basically does this automatically. I can capture a part of the screen, mark it up, then save it...then load it into anote.
The other option is to do a "Write on Screen", mark it up, then save it as an image, then add it to the note.
Not sure this is exactly the same workflow, but it does give the option to mark up the text like a regular book.
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When you upload the image to a notebook do you always have to manually add it to a specific notebook or can it ever be auto added to a specific notebook?
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I've been dreaming of this feature for years, but to clarify:
1) Only an image of the handwriting can be saved
2) The handwriting does not save in Logos itself
Is that correct?
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David, I also have a Samsung S7. How do idols "Write on Screen"?
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David Mullens said:For those of us Android users...a workaround perhaps.
It sounds like the iPad takes a screenshot and then you can annotate it. Android can already do this. Take a screenshot, then annotate the image.
I'm using a Samsung S7+ and it basically does this automatically. I can capture a part of the screen, mark it up, then save it...then load it into anote.
The other option is to do a "Write on Screen", mark it up, then save it as an image, then add it to the note.
Not sure this is exactly the same workflow, but it does give the option to mark up the text like a regular book.
Thanks, figured there had to be a way as Android phones and tablets have had these capabilities for over a decade. Wonder why we get treated like the red headed step child?
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The fact that I needed the Bronze package was not made clear when watching the videos. Why can't this feature be released on lower packages? I am not really happy about this. I upgraded (I am on starter) under the impression I would finally be able to use my Apple Pencil with Logos. I would like to know how to get a refund for this. I think it would be best if you made this clear in your feature notes.
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Don Dudley said:
I would like to know how to get a refund for this.
Call customer service.
Don Dudley said:I would finally be able to use my Apple Pencil with Logos
Well, but that is not what this feature is about... unless you simply mean to use your apple pencil to make drawings on a screenshot.
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Don Dudley said:
The fact that I needed the Bronze package was not made clear when watching the videos. Why can't this feature be released on lower packages? I am not really happy about this. I upgraded (I am on starter) under the impression I would finally be able to use my Apple Pencil with Logos. I would like to know how to get a refund for this. I think it would be best if you made this clear in your feature notes.
You need to take this up with customer support via chat, phone, or email. As a peer-to-peer forum, we cannot do anything more than sympathize.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The issue is, it is presented as a feature and the above menu options are only available if you have bronze and above. This is kinda lame as the API for iPad OS is free for devs to use. so even if it’s a screenshot or whatever, we can’t use it unless we drop another $277. This was not disclosed on the main page or in the features List.
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the original post asked for my thoughts and feedback. So I left them. I feel the company did a bad job communicating that a feature was only available on certain packages and I get duped by them. That is my feedback.
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Don Dudley said:
This is kinda lame as the API for iPad OS is free for devs to use. so even if it’s a screenshot or whatever, we can’t use it unless we drop another $277.
I'm of two minds. On the one hand, I kinda agree. I truly can understand your frustration... especially on the marketing side. On the other hand, users continually say, "I'll pay for you to add this feature!" Time is money and development aint cheap.
If a feature were to cost FL $10,000 to develop (not even to maintain!), how would they get remunerated? ONE person could pay $10,000. TEN people could pay $1,000. a HUNDRED People could pay $100. A THOUSAND people could pay $10. FL isn't charging you $10 for this feature, but it is bundled in with the other new things.
I know your concern is this one feature, but Logos needs to make money. The software is free... and there are many freeloaders. FL encourages it. Some eventually pay money. Yet they have to keep the machine rolling. If this feature and the other ones you get for the $277 aren't worth it to you, don't buy it. Perhaps it will end up rolling out to other users in the future. In that case, you'd benefit again from those who did pay (as I have from time to time).
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How can we get logos to make these markups stay on / in our favorite Bible? It seems kind of pointless if they go away or have to be saved as a note. Ideally, it would be amazing to have a digital Bible like the esv Scripture journal that keeps all of your mark ups.
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A. E. Harmon said:
How can we get logos to make these markups stay on / in our favorite Bible? It seems kind of pointless if they go away or have to be saved as a note. Ideally, it would be amazing to have a digital Bible like the esv Scripture journal that keeps all of your mark ups.
This is what I truly want also. I wish my hand drawn notes could be a visual filter I turn on and off. But I don’t think they can do this.
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A. E. Harmon said:
How can we get logos to make these markups stay on / in our favorite Bible?
You cant.
A. E. Harmon said:It seems kind of pointless if they go away or have to be saved as a note. Ideally, it would be amazing to have a digital Bible like the esv Scripture journal that keeps all of your mark ups.
This feature is using technology from iPadOS... basically it is marking up a screenshot. While what you desire would be good, it would be a MAJOR project and is unlikely to come to fruition.
One issue is simply that electronic books don't have set typography. If you change the window pane, change the type size or font family, the layout changes. To implement a more permanent version of this would require that not to be the case.
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JT (alabama24) said:
One issue is simply that electronic books don't have set typography. If you change the window pane, change the type size or font family, the layout changes. To implement a more permanent version of this would require that not to be the case.
As I understand Logos, under the hood, it's a graphics engine. All the markups are graphics, in various ways. Attached to the text flows (however rendered). Programming wise, it's not particularly difficult, if you plan for the capability. Logos didn't.
But that said, I'm not sure the market (remember Bob arguing notes should be short little comments in 2009?!). Then, they had to re-program. Maps re-done 3 times, I think.
In my software, I have embedded image editing. Text re-writing. And text-overlays (drawing lines between words, even pages). But over time, I mainly use the line overlays. Scrawling handwriting over text is cute, but ???. Amazon's new Scribe allows it for PDFs, but not Kindle books (packaged image as a note). I very much doubt, that idea will 'take' (vs a regular tablet and PDFs).
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DMB said:
Amazon's new Scribe allows it for PDFs, but not Kindle books (packaged image as a note).
So the same as Logos?
DMB said:In my software, I have embedded image editing. Text re-writing. And text-overlays (drawing lines between words, even pages). But over time, I mainly use the line overlays. Scrawling handwriting over text is cute, but ???.
Your "drawing lines" are computer drawn, right? Not handwritten?
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JT (alabama24) said:
So the same as Logos?
Logos supports PDFs? Or Logos supports handwriting on PDFs. I'm confused ... I think neither? I'd REALLY like a Scribe if it supported write-over text (not just stickies).
JT (alabama24) said:Your "drawing lines" are computer drawn, right? Not handwritten?
Yes. I 'can' do handwriting (attaches to a text start point; chop depend right or bottom). So, my 'version', this thread wouldn't like. I was mainly just testing if it'd add mental benefit to my studying. On any day, I'm 90% handwriting (my iPad), 10% keyboard (like right now). I ended up with text notes with easy multi-attach, including from searches. The over-text drawing code is 'there'; probable buggy by now.
Regarding lines, computer drawn, user assigned. You multi-select a series of text-points, select color/style/curviture, and it stores the list (same as storing a highlight, except multiple). Cross-page is handled by on-the-fly start/end points computing the normal angle. My primary use is outlining points in the text, logic-flow, and 'terrible arguments'(!).
So, programming-wise, not a big issue. I'd assume for FL, it'd be a look/feel issue, market?, and platform issues.
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DMB said:
Logos supports PDFs? Or Logos supports handwriting on PDFs. I'm confused ... I think neither?
On iPadOs, you can use the built in "Draw on Screen" feature. in essence, it creates a PDF. It is like a screenshot, or a photograph of the page. Once you start writing, the application stays "as is." So in that sense, writing on a PDF.
FL does actually support PDF's... but support is very limited and not for most of us. Some missionary organization had some documents that for whatever reason could not be turned into ebooks... FL created a way for them to be utilized in Logos. I assume as images.
Similarly, FL had the "books" website with scans of public domain books not yet imported into Logos. I <think> FL is bringing those into Logos... I didn't really care about that site in the past so I never really looked into it... and I am not inclined to want to view PDF's in Logos either. It isnt the right tool for the job.
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I would love to be able to annotate sermons via Apple Pencil/stylus. I use Noteshelf for this purpose and it works great. The inability to do this in Logos keeps me from using it for preaching.
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