L10 Denominational Packages: What looks good?

Sean
Sean Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

So, we did this with L9, but so far I have not seen a thread of this for L10: which denominational base packages look like particularly good values? With L9 I ended up an academic base package, but this time they’re looking a little lacklustre, perhaps because I already own quite a few of the resources. OTOH, Academic Professional does have TDOT, which I haven’t been able to lay my hands on yet.

Orthodox Silver and up has J. Pelikan’s The Christian Tradition, which is currently on pre-pub and is an essential for historical theology. A number of the other Gold packages have it too.

What’s catching your eye? I’m especially interested in Gold and lower packages as, let’s face it, higher packages are necessarily going to have a lot of good stuff in them.

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  • Donovan Palmer
    Donovan Palmer Member Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭

    My library is very well developed from years of investment going back to Series X, so I think that is a big factor for me. Sure there are always a few more things that would be nice to have (I.e. Ancient Christian Writers, Fathers of the Church Series, Journals - who can have enough journals!?!), but I can’t justify four figure upgrades to get this stuff because I won’t use them enough. 

    So for me, I am leaning towards Silver Standard and Baptist Bronze. This is a nice little upgrade that gets me Carta (finally after years of wanting it in Logos). There are a few other bits and pieces in there, particularly some of the Holman Titles that I just enjoy for various reasons. 

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭

    As a Catholic (so my strategy might not work for others), this is how I approach it:

    My priority is always Verbum and it’s sub groups (Eastern and Ordinariate) first. after that comes Orthodox as there can be some useful overlap with Eastern patristic writings. Third is Anglican as it sometimes supplements the Ordinariate set. Fourth, the Messianic Judaism sets might have useful Jewish texts.

    After that, it depends on whether it has a resource I want at a better price than buying it separately. But, as I’ve gotten a large number of the foundational works from previous version, there’s less reason for me to buy those sets.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,121

    David, my pattern is very similar to yours except for two points: (1) I check out the Lutheran packages after the Anglican although this cycle there was nothing of interest (2) I no longer check the Messianic Judaism packages as the ratio of what I wanted and what I didn't has turned against me.

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  • Michael
    Michael Member Posts: 303 ✭✭✭

    So, we did this with L9, but so far I have not seen a thread of this for L10: which denominational base packages look like particularly good values? With L9 I ended up an academic base package, but this time they’re looking a little lacklustre, perhaps because I already own quite a few of the resources. OTOH, Academic Professional does have TDOT, which I haven’t been able to lay my hands on yet.

    Orthodox Silver and up has J. Pelikan’s The Christian Tradition, which is currently on pre-pub and is an essential for historical theology. A number of the other Gold packages have it too.

    What’s catching your eye? I’m especially interested in Gold and lower packages as, let’s face it, higher packages are necessarily going to have a lot of good stuff in them.

    Orthodox Silver is what I ended up going with.  As a lay leader that's interested in church history and the writings of the church fathers, it hit the sweet spot based on what I already owned from previous upgrades.  I didn't have ISBE and ACCS yet.  Those resources with the new L10 features were worth it for the package.  The rest of was huge bonus and good fit for my interests.  J. Pelikan's The Christian Tradition is definitely of interest to me as well.

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭

    David, my pattern is very similar to yours except for two points: (1) I check out the Lutheran packages after the Anglican although this cycle there was nothing of interest (2) I no longer check the Messianic Judaism packages as the ratio of what I wanted and what I didn't has turned against me.

    I haven’t looked too deeply this time as money is tight. It may turn out my interests this time line up with yours.

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  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,795

    So, we did this with L9, but so far I have not seen a thread of this for L10: which denominational base packages look like particularly good values? With L9 I ended up an academic base package, but this time they’re looking a little lacklustre, perhaps because I already own quite a few of the resources. OTOH, Academic Professional does have TDOT, which I haven’t been able to lay my hands on yet.

    Orthodox Silver and up has J. Pelikan’s The Christian Tradition, which is currently on pre-pub and is an essential for historical theology. A number of the other Gold packages have it too.

    What’s catching your eye? I’m especially interested in Gold and lower packages as, let’s face it, higher packages are necessarily going to have a lot of good stuff in them.

    I picked up Baptist Gold, Reformed Gold, and Academic Professional, with an eye towards portfolio for those two traditions. 

    Baptist Portfolio is loaded with Sermons, and tons of the classic commentary and studies sets. Reformed portfolio has NICOT/NT, a good selection of the classic commentary and studies set, some of the HD commentaries (I don't have the full set), REC, Carta, Pink, Kuyper, and Barth. 

    Standard Portfolio is on my radar too, because of Lightfoot, Murray, Ryle, Torrey, Ironside, Geerhardus Vos, the dispensationalists are of medium interest. The Journals are interesting too. Greek and Hebrew language books are frequently on my short list, and there are plenty of those (and latin) in Standard Portfolio. This package has a well filled out sermon section too - Platt, Carson, Rogers, Piper, Whitefield, and Talmage. Nac, and the IVP are good additions here too. Though I have both of those.

    One caveat. Baptist Gold says it has the COMPLETE bible study library. But it is decidedly incomplete. The completely incomplete complete library is included all except two volumes - The interlinears.


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  • Brian Davidson
    Brian Davidson Member Posts: 813 ✭✭

    It’s Reformed Portfolio (not Gold) that has NIC, before anyone has a heart attack or drops their phones in must-buy panic 

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,795

    L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087

    And for anyone that wants to fill in their library with a good grouping of conservative leaning commentaries (including all of NIC):

    https://www.logos.com/product/229202/logos-10-poteupolrio 

    Yes, some Korean, of course.  Good stuff.

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭

    Orthodox Silver is what I ended up going with.  As a lay leader that's interested in church history and the writings of the church fathers, it hit the sweet spot based on what I already owned from previous upgrades.  I didn't have ISBE and ACCS yet.  Those resources with the new L10 features were worth it for the package.  The rest of was huge bonus and good fit for my interests.  J. Pelikan's The Christian Tradition is definitely of interest to me as well.

    Yeah right now Orthodox Silver with a Full Feature Upgrade is sitting in my cart and what I'm most likely to go with. I'll also likely grab a handful of Starter Packages. Those are almost a good value, and the dynamic cart pricing is dropping them down to about $10 each.

    (Baptist Starter has the full Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia, which I had to miss when it was on pre-pub, plus at least 3 titles by Joachim Jeremias!)

  • Kathleen Marie
    Kathleen Marie Member Posts: 812

    Some things that got me to click "buy"

    Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Manners and Customs

    https://www.logos.com/product/2266/nelsons-new-illustrated-bible-manners-and-customs

    Sacramentum Mundi: An Encyclopedia of Theology (6 vols.)

    https://www.logos.com/product/197249/sacramentum-mundi-an-encyclopedia-of-theology

    Seventh Day Adventist Bible Commentary

    https://www.logos.com/product/38875/seventh-day-adventist-bible-commentary-standard-edition

    Carta Understanding Series

    https://www.logos.com/product/205438/carta-understanding-series

    Stan Toler's Practical Guide to Solo Ministry 

    https://www.logos.com/product/16407/stan-tolers-practical-guide-to-solo-ministry

    Wrinkled but Not Ruined: Counsel for the Elderly

    https://www.logos.com/product/193314/wrinkled-but-not-ruined-counsel-for-the-elderly 

    Mobile Ed: CO111 Gospel-Centered Counseling (7 hour course) 

    https://www.logos.com/product/45304/mobile-ed-co111-gospel-centered-counseling 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sacramentum Mundi: An Encyclopedia of Theology (6 vols.)

    https://www.logos.com/product/197249/sacramentum-mundi-an-encyclopedia-of-theology

    Thanks for the heads-up. Just picked this up very inexpensively. Would have been $149.99 reg price, but it's included in Verbum 10 Academic Essentials, which I got for the dynamic price of $18.32 even though the remaining resources in it which I didn't have yet totaled a whopping $396.90 in value! I think that must be the best dynamic price deal I've ever gotten!

     

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,677

    Well, I've seen nothing that appeals whereas I bought 3  packages from L9, including Silver, which is my notional level.

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  • Kathleen Marie
    Kathleen Marie Member Posts: 812

    Sacramentum Mundi: An Encyclopedia of Theology (6 vols.)

    https://www.logos.com/product/197249/sacramentum-mundi-an-encyclopedia-of-theology

    Thanks for the heads-up. Just picked this up very inexpensively. Would have been $149.99 reg price, but it's included in Verbum 10 Academic Essentials, which I got for the dynamic price of $18.32 even though the remaining resources in it which I didn't have yet totaled a whopping $396.90 in value! I think that must be the best dynamic price deal I've ever gotten!

    I got some amazing deals, too. Especially because I had recently bought a L9 package. I don't know what I paid for what, because I had a cart full that was bringing down all the prices and then a big coupon off the final price. I did not upgrade to V10 because I wanted the new features; I wanted the resources in the packages.

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    I already own most of the stuff that Faithlife currently sells that I would like to own, especially of the stuff from publishers that let their resources be in base packages, so my V10 & L10 purchases tended to be for resources that are new to the Faithlife ecosystem or at least new to base packages.

    I was pleasantly surprised to find a number of Catholic homily/sermon-related resources in Baptist Portfolio, thanks to its inclusion of https://www.logos.com/product/204590/sermon-finder-feature-expansion-collection. How https://www.logos.com/product/51477/sunday-sermons-of-the-great-fathers-volumes-1-4 made it into Baptist Portfolio but not into any Verbum (or Orthodox) libraries I don't know, but I hope it benefits everyone who picks it up. Maybe the Sunday Sermons of the Great Fathers will make it into a Verbum 11 package. Finally getting it into a base package is a start!

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  • Sam Henderson
    Sam Henderson Member Posts: 165 ✭✭

    I too have a fairly large library which I have been judiciously adding stuff to over time. Nothing the new base libraries offered had much to attract me. But Anglican Bronze had  https://www.logos.com/product/223227/the-new-encyclopedia-of-archaeological-excavations-in-the-holy-land which I wanted, and had already committed to as a prepub. In this base package, with dynamic pricing it was going to cost me a lot less than the prepub price. I added Anglican Bronze to the cart, then threw in the full Logos 10 feature set, and found I would only be about $60 US out of pocket on the on the original prepub price for the Carta resource.