Feature: Advanced Timeline
Advanced Timeline
A refreshed Timeline makes it simpler to focus on the events that matter most and see them in historical context.
What is it?
Advanced Timeline helps you see historical events in context, and understand what was happening in the world at any point in time. The Advanced Timeline tool helps you filter and organize timeline events so you can focus on the types of events that are most relevant to you. The timeline is also divided into eras, helping you to understand the wider historical context, even as you zoom in on the detail.
How to access it?
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Open the Logos 10 Web app.
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Click on the Tools icon (nine dots in a square shape).
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Select “Advanced Timeline” in the drop-down menu.
Note
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Advanced Timeline is also available on the Desktop app and Mobile app.
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This is available in Bronze packages and above.
We’d love to hear your thoughts on this new feature. Please provide your feedback in the comments below.
Ali Pope | Logos Desktop and Mobile Program Manager
Comments
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Kudos! It is definitely a better timeline. I found the old very confusing. Thanks for the new!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Yes, I totally agree. The old one was completely unusable, while the new one is much more intuitive and provides more options for filtering and finding events. Thanks Faithlife!
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I've done some work with the advanced timeline. It is very useful but I need to take time to dig into it, which is what is expected.
For the future (Logos 11?), it would be nice to add "own timeline" on top of the set, since most of the chronology is debatable (I am not sure this is the right word [:|]).
Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11
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Libby, Libby, Libby on the label, label, label. (old soup commercial in the US, but Libby did that).Veli Voipio said:For the future (Logos 11?), it would be nice to add "own timeline" on top of the set
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I like the new timeline. It definitely is easier to find things and it looks great.
My main annoyance is that it goes all the way back to 15,000 BC just because one guy in one dictionary proposed that as the date for creation (apparently Adam and Eve didn't mosey along until 13,000 BC according to him). Leaving arguments about creation aside, I just find this functionally useless. It makes the timeline more difficult to use because there's so much empty (wasted) space just to accommodate two wildly speculative (exegetically irresponsible) dates.
I would prefer it began at 10,000 BC since you start to see more concrete dates for things at about 9000 BC, so 10,000 BC gives you some buffer space to play with. It would make the Timeline easier to navigate if it was focused more on recordable history and not wild speculation about primordial history. Everything on the timeline (and on the slider bar) is shifted too far to the right because it's going back too far in time. I'd like things to be more centered.
Or maybe you can add the ability to permanently fix our beginning date, so that we then set the timeline to ignore everything before 10,000 BC if we wish. It would be like "cropping" the timeline. This would make the slider at the bottom of the screen easier to use if it didn't go all the way back to 15,000 BC. Things would be more centered and evenly distributed instead of shifted to the right.
Although I think it would be easier and a better idea for FL just to remove Albright's proposed creation and Adam/Eve dates from the timeline and start it at 10,000 BC. It would greatly increase visual appeal and ease of use.
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Kiyah said:
Although I think it would be easier and a better idea for FL just to remove Albright's proposed creation and Adam/Eve dates from the timeline and start it at 10,000 BC. It would greatly increase visual appeal and ease of use.
You can use the filter (hamberger menu) to narrow searches down. This is a big improvement option in my books.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Timeline is actually usable now. I love the small marks at the bottom that show us where information is and that searching for a keyword actually brings us to the event rather than a bunch of empty space. Many of the other features look very interesting and I love how the events are linked to encyclopedias. This has been a huge improvement. over previous versions.
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xnman said:Kiyah said:
Although I think it would be easier and a better idea for FL just to remove Albright's proposed creation and Adam/Eve dates from the timeline and start it at 10,000 BC. It would greatly increase visual appeal and ease of use.
You can use the filter (hamberger menu) to narrow searches down. This is a big improvement option in my books.
I know we can filter. I want to permanently remove anything before 10,000 BC from the timeline so that I don't have to navigate around that. It's literally 5000 years just to accommodate two speculative dates.
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Kiyah said:
I know we can filter. I want to permanently remove anything before 10,000 BC from the timeline so that I don't have to navigate around that. It's literally 5000 years just to accommodate two speculative dates.
I understand the problem. And agree with the frustration. But deleting data as a solution is what I'd never recommend:
- Report the data/estimates as authors see them
- Plan for potential other estimates being reported
I'd recommend a compress button (across the board). Remove centuries with no data (however filtered).
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DMB said:
I understand the problem. And agree with the frustration. But deleting data as a solution is what I'd never recommend:
This is why I also suggested the "crop" option. Let me set my timeline to start at 10,000BC. Then the data is still there, but I don't have to have 5,000 years on the timeline for only two data points, and I don't have to manually filter it out. My default timeline just starts at 10,000 BC without me having to do anything and then I can start to filter from there. I can restore it to 15,000 BC if I want to because nothing has been deleted.
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Kiyah said:
This is why I also suggested the "crop" option. Let me set my timeline to start at 10,000BC.
It sounds like you want to be able to set a default timeline view of your choosing. That's a feature a lot of people might appreciate.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:Kiyah said:
This is why I also suggested the "crop" option. Let me set my timeline to start at 10,000BC.
It sounds like you want to be able to set a default timeline view of your choosing. That's a feature a lot of people might appreciate.
Well, I just want to get rid of that first useless 5,000 years somehow. I don't think I would even be thinking about setting my own fixed starting point if it weren't for that. The timeline would be fine for me. I'm just trying to think of the best solution for eliminating all that wasted space and making actual recordable history more centered on the timeline.
But you're right, a lot of people may like to be able to fix their start date. I just want the thing to look and work better. Removing those first 5,000 years would move me from liking to loving the new timeline.
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Ali Pope said:
A refreshed Timeline makes it simpler to focus on the events that matter most and see them in historical context.
Dear Ali Pope:
Advanced time line? I think the name is a bit presumptuous. Since Libronix (which actually gave you the option to create your own timeline), I haven't seen a well done or a finished timeline tool. A better name would be "tool under construction". And still is!
Apart from the filter possibilities (nothing new), what attracted me the most was the information sidebar. And it has also been the disappointment. It is supposed to display relevant information about a given event. But the event always targets the same two or three resources. For example, it doesn't show any result from AYB resources (neither dictionaries nor commentaries).
No matter what range of years you want the tool to show, allways have to go to "show all matching events"
A really cool tool would be to have the possibility of add custom events, tyded with your own readings, using the other calendars relevant to the biblical events, like the jewish or Babylonian calendars, don't know.
I wonder how this tool is tagged.
Some things are about perception, but I feel the tool still is crude.
Thanks for watching!
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EDUARDO JIMENEZ said:
Since Libronix (which actually gave you the option to create your own timeline),
Because I am one who acutely felt this loss, I will remind you that from FL's point of view, making our own timelines was not a feature but a hack.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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EDUARDO JIMENEZ said:
Some things are about perception, but I feel the tool still is crude.
That's a bit over the top? Or not.
My impression is that you'll never see 'graphics' fixed in Logos. Maps will be limited. Images low-res. And timelines a bit chaotic. But they're not meant for Bible class ... a simple display with your pointer, etc. Customizable to your points. They're meant for Faithlife-style study, sitting at your computer and squinting at the little boxes (for me anyway).
It's why each morning I open my Verbum, my Accordance, my own software, and then Kindle. Accordance strictly for media.
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Kiyah said:xnman said:Kiyah said:
Although I think it would be easier and a better idea for FL just to remove Albright's proposed creation and Adam/Eve dates from the timeline and start it at 10,000 BC. It would greatly increase visual appeal and ease of use.
You can use the filter (hamberger menu) to narrow searches down. This is a big improvement option in my books.
I know we can filter. I want to permanently remove anything before 10,000 BC from the timeline so that I don't have to navigate around that. It's literally 5000 years just to accommodate two speculative dates.
Something I started months ago was to build my own timeline for parts of the Bible...i.e. Romans. I used Canvas to do that... then embedded the in my notes and bingo bango....I have the best of both worlds.... and I learn about the timeline I built by building it. I use Bible Books Explorer a lot more than I use Advanced Timeline....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
I used Canvas to do that... then embedded the in my notes and bingo bango...
Hi Kiyah! Can you give us a little more? An example, a picture? Thanks!
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