Workspace

Pastor Michael Huffman
Pastor Michael Huffman Member Posts: 449
edited November 21 in English Forum

There is one area of my workspace that seems to not work correctly. No matter how many times I collapse all my drop down menus in my passage guide and then save that workspace in that way, when I open that workspace the next time, the commentaries section of the PG is always going to expand. Why is that? When you save the updated workspace, it should save the workspace with the collapsed PG and not open some of the sections of the passage guide....what am I doing wrong? 

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    I assume you are talking about "Layouts"?  If this is the case... then set your workspace and then click the "Layouts" icon... and type in a name for your "workspace ~ layout" and save it... 

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • I assume you are talking about "Layouts"?  If this is the case... then set your workspace and then click the "Layouts" icon... and type in a name for your "workspace ~ layout" and save it... 

    I have done that, and the commentary section of the PG open in the Workspace expanded instead of collapsed as the workspace is saved.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,365

    The expand/collapse state of Guide sections is not saved as part of the layout. Instead, it is a system-wide preference that is updated when a panel is closed. The expand/collapse state should initialize to the last state the Commentaries section had when any Guide containing that section was closed.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭✭

    The expand/collapse state of Guide sections is not saved as part of the layout. Instead, it is a system-wide preference that is updated when a panel is closed. The expand/collapse state should initialize to the last state the Commentaries section had when any Guide containing that section was closed.

    Andrew, this used to be true for the search panel as well, but not with Logos 10. Can you please restore this functionality to the search panel? See this bug report I made for more details: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/211350.aspx

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,365

    this used to be true for the search panel as well, but not with Logos 10. Can you please restore this functionality to the search panel?

    Upcoming changes to the Books search kind will result in there no longer being multiple result sections in that search kind.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭✭

    this used to be true for the search panel as well, but not with Logos 10. Can you please restore this functionality to the search panel?

    Upcoming changes to the Books search kind will result in there no longer being multiple result sections in that search kind.

    Thanks Andrew!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,121

    Upcoming changes to the Books search kind will result in there no longer being multiple result sections in that search kind.

    If you mean we have to run separate searches for downloaded books, cloud books, print books and storefront books ... may I object in advance?

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    If you mean we have to run separate searches for downloaded books, cloud books, print books and storefront books ... may I object in advance?

    ut oh! What is happening to me.... here I am agreeing with MJ.... lol

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,365

    If you mean we have to run separate searches for downloaded books, cloud books, print books and storefront books ... may I object in advance?

    Bookstore search will be a separate search kind. Downloaded, Cloud, and Print books will all be searchable in a combined format.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭✭

    Bookstore search will be a separate search kind

    Thank you. Will the Factbook search also be removed from the Book search tab? That's the main thing getting in the way. I just want to go directly to my books when I use the Books search tab.

    Downloaded, Cloud, and Print books will all be searchable in a combined format.

    Are they going to be all jumbled together (like in the All search)? I removed certain resources from my hard drive to get higher quality and faster searches. Mixing in cloud resources with my downloaded resources would defeat that purpose. And will I still be able to distinguish print resources from resources that I own in Logos?

     

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,121

    Downloaded, Cloud, and Print books will all be searchable in a combined format.

    In short, a continuing decrease in usability for my use while perhaps improving it for some. For me, this making everything a separate search/single search approach is misguided and will add confusion to the inexperienced user. Instead of puzzling over how to write the search argument they will be puzzling over the type of search needed and wondering why many searches are needed to create a simple result.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Downloaded, Cloud, and Print books will all be searchable in a combined format.

    In short, a continuing decrease in usability for my use while perhaps improving it for some. For me, this making everything a separate search/single search approach is misguided and will add confusion to the inexperienced user. Instead of puzzling over how to write the search argument they will be puzzling over the type of search needed and wondering why many searches are needed to create a simple result.

    Even after Downloaded/Cloud/Print have been merged into a single set of results, we’ll retain the option to group them, for users who prefer that.

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,677

    Even after Downloaded/Cloud/Print have been merged into a single set of results, we’ll retain the option to group them, for users who prefer that.

    I'm getting different messages from you and Andrew.  Merging those into three into a single set of results makes a nonsense of having Cloud resources which I don't want to be a part of my working set.  Does "grouping" them mean we retain the choices under "All Books" in Beta 2?

    From Andrew I understood the different kinds in "All Books" would not be available as sections within another "kind".

    And where do Personal Books fit in?

    Dave
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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,365

    The simplest answer is to wait and see. I really only mentioned this as an explanation for why we weren't planning on pursuing a fix for the section expand/collapse state not being remembered.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭✭

    The simplest answer is to wait and see. I really only mentioned this as an explanation for why we weren't planning on pursuing a fix for the section expand/collapse state not being remembered.

    I appreciate you responding. At least I know something is changing at some point since the current situation is frustrating.

  • The expand/collapse state of Guide sections is not saved as part of the layout. Instead, it is a system-wide preference that is updated when a panel is closed. The expand/collapse state should initialize to the last state the Commentaries section had when any Guide containing that section was closed.

    That is kind of what I thought. But Morris Proctor is saying the opposite in his training. He is saying in his training that the collapsed section are saved as part of the layout.