What about the graphical query?

HaroldAKime said:

Concerning my OpenText search, I created it in Logos 3.0 but did not save it.  So, I tried to recreate it in Logos 4.0 (below).  It returns 66 items but they are not correct.  It seems that I need to have both components coming off of Clause1 but I cannot get the second component to link with Clause1. 

Yes, bot components need to be coming off Clause 1. As for other problems with false hits, you're also going to need to add:

Clause Component
Clause Category = Predicator -- NOT PRESENT

if you want to specify to the database that you want verbless clauses.

With those adjustments, I get 69 hits -- they all look okay. I'd be curious about the difference between the two search results...

Here's what I did:

Clause --> Clause Component

Clause Category = Verb NOT PRESENT

    --> Clause Component --> Word Group --> Head Term --> Word (Adjective, Nominative)

Clause Category = Complement

    --> Clause Component -->Word Group --> Head Term --> Word (Noun, Nominative)

Clause Category = Subject

HaroldAKime said:

Also, can do the following with Morph or Syntax searches I as I did in the GQE?

• quickly paste a list of Lemma for a search
• share my searches (not just picture of them) with my students

I'm not sure. It's not something I've tried to do. I don't think there's a way to quickly paste a list of Lemma, but in the most recent Beta version, we're testing a feature that very nicely will sort by Lemma (or just about anything else you can think of). It's incredibly handy and I am really excited about it.

As for sharing searches, I don't know. My guess is "No" because of the new system for managing files is less transparent, but I haven't fiddled with it at all, so I really can't say for sure.

Jim said:

I want to search the entire NA27 for "the faith", that is an article followed by the noun where they agree in case and number ( I think all possibilities are singular) while the set can be any case. The article should be say within 2 or 3 words of the noun. (Question: when you say WITHIN 3 words, is that count inclusive of the two words being specified, thus allowing only one intervening word or does that allow 2 intervening words?)

Jim,

This did it for me:

lemma:ὁ@D?S BEFORE  2 words lemma:πίστις@N?S

Morph search in NA27; articles that are singular before two words "pistis" that is also a singular noun.

If you have beta you can sort them in analysis view by case....

what you don't get from this is the "case agreement thing"

You could also do it like this:

lemma:ὁ@DNS BEFORE  2 words lemma:πίστις@NNS (For nominative)

And do it for all of the cases and have a separate passage list for each or put them into a spread sheet...

Jim said:

that is an article followed by the noun where they agree in case and number

In order to specify that there is agreement with case and number, a syntax search can be used:

Word 1 is set to agree with word 2 in both case and number

I get 101 results with this search. The benefit of a syntax search over a simple morphological search in this case is that you can make sure the article is actually governing the noun.

Jim said:

Thank you for your diagram. I tried to duplicate it but could only create Clause 1 after that , I couldn't make anything that matches yours so I'm lost.

tried to duplicate it too .

Found i needed Opentext.org (as Anderson Forbes is the default)

with default Anderson Forbes (No Clause Component avail.)

with OpenText.org

Robert Pavich said:

This did it for me:  lemma:ὁ@D?S BEFORE  2 words lemma:πίστις@N?S

This worked well in L4. Thanks for the example. I tried it in L3 so I could print the results, but it didn't give me any search results there.

I fooled with the syntax search in L4 but it's too much of a mystery for me at this time.

Appended later: I played around with the L3 Syntax search and got it to work using  [=D???]BEFORE 2 WORDS [πίστις=N???]. The whole syntax searching is new to me to it took a bit of playing around to get something.

Jim said:

Referring to your diagram, the only part I can't figure out how to duplicate is making Word2 have "part of speech = article".

In order to specifiy what part of speech a word is, do the following:

Click on the word (In this case, Word2)

This will bring up the side bar where you can choose text, lemma, gloss, or morphology. Click the white box under "morhpology" that says "Morph specification". If the white bar isn't there, click the arrow to the left of "Morphology" to make it appear (brown circle).

@ makes the morphology selector appear. Click "Article" as the picture below shows.

Then click the blue circle with the white arrow to confirm your choice.The box will then say "@D" and the syntax search should show "part-of-speech = article"

Let me know if that helps!

Ok...now that Jim has it down...I wonder why I'm not getting 101 hits?

I'm getting 90'something hits.....

hmmm...

David,

Sure, here is a screen shot:

EDITED TO ADD: Whoops! That pesky little "anything" is hidden in there isn't it?

Mystery solved. [:$]