A curious question --

xnman
xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I am wondering as a general wonder....  how many hours a day do you spend actually studying God's word?

Myself...  I spend about 4 hours a day,  an 30 min to an hour to go over memorized Scripture, about 2 hours actually working on a sermon or Bible class for the week, about an hour doing research and 45 min to an hour actually reading (6-8 chapters) Gods word...

I generally start about 5 am.... finished between 7:30 - 8 am...    

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

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  • Joseph Luna
    Joseph Luna Member Posts: 375

    Being a layman and retired from work, I spend about 4-6 hours a day reading God's word, and making notes of what I see. I watch Macolm Smith's free webinars in YouTube almost every day (there are about 400 + of them) that sometimes last about 70 minutes. He is one the few teachers that has discovered the very heart of God (Father, Son, and Spirit). He is an outstanding teacher. I grow with him since he is always after the truth. 

    So, I spend part of my time in God's word, worship, and learning. The results have been phenomenal. I have actually heard His voice, i'm learning His ways, and I am in the presence of God 24/7. I don't preach or teach because where I live (Cody, Wyo.) no one is interested in what I have to say. Fellowship with others is poor. In other words, no one cares. 

    God bless, 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,117

    how many hours a day do you spend actually studying God's word?

    I prefer to think in terms of how many hours a day I spend living God's Word.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    how many hours a day do you spend actually studying God's word?

    I prefer to think in terms of how many hours a day I spend living God's Word.

    MJ for the win! Better answer than I could have come up with.

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭

    how many hours a day do you spend actually studying God's word?

    I prefer to think in terms of how many hours a day I spend living God's Word.

    MJ for the win! Better answer than I could have come up with.

    I couldn’t agree more! What’s the point of all those hours of study if you don’t live the word 👍😁👌

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    And here I am thinking.... it is God's word that tells us how to live and without it we don't know how to live.....

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,117

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    Hint: why do I capitalize Word and you do not?

    ummm ..... because my little pinky on my left hand is lazy and yours is not??  [;)] [:D] [:)] [8-|]

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭

    Word or word, same thing.  Here’s an interesting and enlightening article: https://www.logos.com/grow/why-we-should-not-capitalize-deity-pronouns-when-referring-to-god/ 

    Similar to the dilemma surrounding some churches of Christ when praying 🙏 Some want you to use thee‘s and thou’s not you’s.

    I say either way it’s 1000% good enough W or w or thee, thou and you 👍😁👌

    DAL

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087

    Some want you to use thee‘s and thou’s not you’s.

    Well, sure.  I can't imagine using a 'you'.  Hello.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭

    Some want you to use thee‘s and thou’s not you’s.

    Well, sure.  I can't imagine using a 'you'.  Hello.

    😂 👌

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,117

    Word or word, same thing.

    Interesting, I need to think about it. Certainly, catholic and Catholic are used with a difference in meaning.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    Word or word, same thing.

    Interesting, I need to think about it. Certainly, catholic and Catholic are used with a difference in meaning.

    This "capitalizing" words to attach special meaning is most likely peculiar to English and not found in other languages such as German where nouns are always capitalized.  It's the context, not necessarily a particular way of spelling, which gives a word its meaning.

    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here’s an interesting and enlightening article: https://www.logos.com/grow/why-we-should-not-capitalize-deity-pronouns-when-referring-to-god/ 

    Interesting article.

    A quote from it: "I’m not aware of any problems caused today by the nomina sacra: we certainly know how to pronounce Jesus"

    I know one particular Logos user active on these forums who would disagree with this. He spells it in a peculiar way to be sure it is pronounced the way he thinks it should be. (Just engaging in a bit of kabuki [;)])

    Another capitalization question: do people capitalize "Bible" in all instances when it is referring to the sacred Christian texts, or only when it is being used as a proper noun, the title of the book (e.g., the Holy Bible)? I find myself moving towards not capitalizing it when it's being used generically, as in "There are bibles in the pew racks" but only when it is prefaced with the definite article as a title ("the Bible") or particular version (Lexham English Bible). And I don't capitalize "biblical". There's some discussion of that here: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/523159/is-there-a-trend-toward-not-capitalizing-the-word-bible

    That leads to the question of whether to capitalize "the": is it "The Bible" or "the Bible"? https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/275226/capitalization-of-the-in-the-bible. I go with the latter.

    There have also been moves to stop capitalizing Christians or the adjective Christian (ditto for other names/adjectives of religious groups). I've seen that in some scholarly journals as an intentional choice (can't find any examples right now). I don't care for that trend.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Word or word, same thing.

    Interesting, I need to think about it. Certainly, catholic and Catholic are used with a difference in meaning.

    This "capitalizing" words to attach special meaning is most likely peculiar to English and not found in other languages such as German where nouns are always capitalized.  It's the context, not necessarily a particular way of spelling, which gives a word its meaning.

    Other examples in English where capitalizing changes the meaning of the word:

    church vs. Church

    church - the building, or a general term about some unspecified church or churches

    the Church - referring to the whole body of Christ, or a particular expression of it (whose name is omitted when the context is obvious) such as the Catholic Church.

    always capitalized when it's part of a particular church's name - e.g., First Baptist Church

    god vs. God

    god - a general term for any deity

    God - the specific deity of most monotheistic religions (though some have a different name for God, such as Allah)

    There is actually a term for such words that change their meaning when they are capitalized: capitonym (there's a list of English examples at that Wikipedia page).

    Though those are quite rare in other languages besides English, they are not entirely nonexistent. For example, in German, Laut = sound, and laut = loud.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭

    In Spanish if it’s a proper noun it’s Dios (God), but if it’s a common noun, then it’s dios (god).  Biblia is to refer to the Christian’s Sacred text, but biblia would be for none sacred like the “generator bible.” 
    So maybe it depends on the grammatical rules of a given language? 🤔 I, personally, don’t make a big deal out of it. When my pinky gets tires and the shift key didn’t engage properly I just leave it as is. As mentioned above, context makes a difference.

    DAL

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭

    Word or word, same thing.

    Interesting, I need to think about it. Certainly, catholic and Catholic are used with a difference in meaning.

    Or as DMB has mentioned in the past — church of Christ vs Church of Christ.  The argument I’ve heard is “you do not make the church equal to Christ!” And apparently some people take this very seriously.

    DAL

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,117

    In Tibetan there is no such thing as a capital letter ... only block vs. cursive [8-|] While it is interesting that they are called capitonyms, it is rather a long way from the theology logical hint that I used a capital for Word, while xnman did not. Which in itself is a long way from the original purpose of the thread which was a measure of time spent studying the word (without a capital).

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And in Greek and Latin there used to be only one case. Greek "developed the letter case distinction between uppercase and lowercase in parallel with Latin during the modern era." Some with Cyrillic, though the differentiation between cases is much less pronounced than in the Latin alphabet, which we use for English.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭

    the etymology certainly does change over the years.... 

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,117

    the etymology certainly does change over the years.... 

    Huh? I don't understand.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭

    Word or word, same thing.

    Interesting, I need to think about it. Certainly, catholic and Catholic are used with a difference in meaning.

    When I was writing my theses, the trend in academia was to stop capitalizing nearly everything. Trying for consistency in that (difficult to attain) forced some interesting choices. I would not capitalize catholic or protestant, and consistency led me to not capitalize pentecostal either, though that felt stranger as the word is derived from a holiday, which should still be capitalized. Calvinism and Arminianism were still capitalized though because they were derived from the names of individuals.

    That was over 10 years ago; I'm not sure what the fashion is today.

    To answer the OP: typically 1-3 hours a day, although more of that would be in commentaries and theological texts than directly in the Bible itself. Sermon prep might require more; the day of delivering the sermon will result in rather less. For context I'm a former professor of theology turned mega-church pastor.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭

    the etymology certainly does change over the years.... 

    Huh? I don't understand.

    I think he was replying to another thread.

    DAL

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the etymology certainly does change over the years.... 

    Huh? I don't understand.

    I think he was replying to another thread.

    DAL

    No, he was replying to my post about the Latin and Greek alphabets. You can tell what post someone is replying to by clicking the "Replied" link next to their post. And then if there are more than one post on that page that you jump to and it's not clear which is the one being replied to, hover over the little dog-eared page icon next to each of them and see which one of them shows you a link that matches what's in your browser's URL bar.