Help Request - Issue with Clause Search

Mal Walker
Mal Walker Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Hey guys, I'm new to Logos and wondering if you can help me out. I want to use the clause (and syntax) search functions, but my copies of the UBS5 (with morphology) and the NA28 are not showing up as a searchable resource. The only searchable resources for clause is the SBLGNT, LXXSwete and the LBH. What am I missing here?

Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,116

    See Morphological Search (logos.com) for an example of the resources available for a morphology search ... depending upon the morphology system you select.

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  • Mal Walker
    Mal Walker Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭

    This is the concern here, specifically the clause and syntax search tabs. All my bibles are showing up correctly in the morph tab, but the clause tab for example only allows me to search the SBLGNT, LXXSwete and the LHB.

    Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,116

    IIRC the syntax search depends upon clause visualization resources. Which do you own?

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,869

    See Morphological Search (logos.com) for an example of the resources available for a morphology search ... depending upon the morphology system you select.

    MJ, I think he was asking about Clause search rather than Morph search (and I remember you being an expert in this kind of thing with the agens, experiens etc.) - I seem to see only SBLGNT, Logos LXX and LHB being offered for the Clause search as well. This would cover the whole canon and would make sense in a way, as those tagging would be applied to a version of an original language text where FL has full control over. I'm not sure if this always has been the case (and I'm no longer running L9 to check if the L10-update to search changed it) 

    EDIT: the above may be superseded by now. But Syntax search definitely only runs on a few number of special resources, like cascadia or open text.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,116

    My apologies ... I did a rotten job of multitasking. See Clause Search – Logos Help Center Yes, you are limited to your clause visualization resources without mapping back to your other translations.

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  • Mal Walker
    Mal Walker Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭

    Is there a reasons the old timers here prefer to use their initials followed by last name? :P

    But yeah, I'll dive into the Logos help center resources some more MJ. My main concern is that the SBL is not used within my academic context, they instead prefer the NA28 or UBS5. Am I still able to run the types of searches the clause tab lists, for example searching for an entity as subject (subject:Abraham) within the morph tab?

    Additionally, I have Leedy's 'Greek New Testament Sentence Diagrams,' is that counted as a clause visualization resource for syntax searches?

    Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,469

    Am I still able to run the types of searches the clause tab lists, for example searching for an entity as subject (subject:Abraham) within the morph tab?

    No, I'm afraid this is not possible as the morph search focuses on morphology and not grammatical or semantic roles.

    Additionally, I have Leedy's 'Greek New Testament Sentence Diagrams,' is that counted as a clause visualization resource for syntax searches?

    I'm afraid not as it doesn't have the required tagging.

  • Mal Walker
    Mal Walker Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭

    Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,869

    My main concern is that the SBL is not used within my academic context, they instead prefer the NA28 or UBS5.

    For the absolutely most part the SBL GNT will have the exact same text as NA28 or UBS5. You can easily check this when using the clause search, via the "add versions" functionality that stands another bible next to the search results:

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  • Mal Walker
    Mal Walker Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭

    Mmmm, that seems a good work around for now NB, thank you!

    Current MDiv student at Trinity Theological College - Perth, Western Australia