L/V 10 Tip of the Day #34 Know your DBL

MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,407
edited November 21 in English Forum

Another tip of the day (TOTD) series for Logos/Verbum 10. They will be short and often drawn from forum posts. Feel free to ask questions and/or suggest forum posts you'd like to see included. Adding comments about the behavior on mobile and web apps would be appreciated by your fellow forumites. A search for "L/V 10 Tip of the Day site:community.logos.com" on Google should bring the tips up as should this Reading List within the application.

This tip is inspired by the forum post: Louw Nida style tagging (93.167) for Hebrew text? - Logos Forums

This tip relates to these three resources:

  • Swanson, James. Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Aramaic (Old Testament). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997.
  • Swanson, James. Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997.
  • Swanson, James. Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Hebrew (Old Testament). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997.

The DBL has several important characteristics:

  • it covers all three primary Biblical languages
  • it provides links to several standard resources
  • it was used in the creation of the Bible sense lexicon
  • it shows basic verse mapping differences

The first box shows links to:

  • Strong's lexicon
  • Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament
  • Louw-Nida Greek-English Lexicon

The second box shows the alternative versification used by English Bibles.

The third box show parsing difference with Brown-Driver-Biggs Hebrew-English Lexicon.

The fourth box show comparison to BHS forms; elsewhere one finds Kethibh/Qere forms for text where what is written is not what is read.

In short, the DBL can serve as the starting point for input from a variety of other sources.

The DBL also has multiple indices which allows one to use if to obtain the correct format for reference search terms.

  • DBLHebrew:"DBL Hebrew 7"
  • hebrewGK:"Hebrew GK #7"
  • strongs:H8
  • TWOT:"TWOT Number 2a"

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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  • Daniel Wurzberg
    Daniel Wurzberg Member Posts: 163 ✭✭✭

    Thank you for this....very informative! Appreciate it.

  • Dave Colclough
    Dave Colclough Member Posts: 212 ✭✭

    [Y]

  • John Brumett
    John Brumett Member Posts: 295 ✭✭

    TWOT links do not take you to TWOT.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,407

    TWOT links do not take you to TWOT.

    That will be true if you have a book indexed by TWOT numbers that is higher in the priority list than the TWOT itself. If I click on the actual number (the actual link), I am taken to the TWOT.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • John Brumett
    John Brumett Member Posts: 295 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    That willbe true if you have a book indexed by TWOT numbers that is higher in the priority list than the TWOT itself. If I click on the actual number (the actual link), I am taken to the TWOT

    That did the trick. I had DBL above TWOT so when I clicked the TWOT numbers it was taking me back to DBL. Thanks!

  • John Brumett
    John Brumett Member Posts: 295 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    That willbe true if you have a book indexed by TWOT numbers that is higher in the priority list than the TWOT itself. If I click on the actual number (the actual link), I am taken to the TWOT

    That did the trick. I had DBL above TWOT so when I clicked the TWOT numbers it was taking me back to DBL. Thanks!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    MJ. Smith said:

    That willbe true if you have a book indexed by TWOT numbers that is higher in the priority list than the TWOT itself. If I click on the actual number (the actual link), I am taken to the TWOT

    That did the trick. I had DBL above TWOT so when I clicked the TWOT numbers it was taking me back to DBL. Thanks!

    In addition to that both DBL Hebrew and TWOT are indexed for Hebrew headwords, so that TWOT will now be preferred for Hebrew lemmas (but its coverage is not as broad, so DBL Hebrew will be used for many OT lemmas). The way out of this dilemma is to use Advanced Prioritization:-

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    This ensures that the Theological Wordbook is used for TWOT numbers whilst DBL Hebrew is preferred for Hebrew lemmas. In addition it ensures that Enhanced Strong's Lexicon is used for Hebrew Strong's numbers (else they would also be 'stolen' by DBL).

    You do a similar prioritization for TDNT and Greek Strong's numbers to ensure DBL Greek is preferred for NT lemmas, whilst protecting Greek Strong's and TDNT numbers from being "stolen" by DBL Greek!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,407

    Thanks Dave very good point that needed to be made.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."