uload notes from Olive Tree

Just came over from Olive Tree.

I amassed a copious volume of notes there, but it keeps crashing and losing some of them. Fortunately, they back them all up in .xml format, which I can then download and dump into Excel. Does Logos have a similar function?

Anyway, what I would ultimately like to do is then upload the whole mass into Logos so that the notes would anchor with their respective verses. If not, I guess I'll just have to do it verse by verse (the pick and shovel method).

Thanks.

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DMB

Welcome!

While waiting for a more expert answer, when Bibleworks died, Logos fashioned a loader for BW'ers. BW used a comma delimited format I think. Anyway, it may be easy enough to re-format Olivetree in Excel, then export into a BW format for the Logos loader. Just thinking.

Thomas A Cison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1051031#Comment_1051031

Is there anyway to know what the bibleworks download format is? I am especially skilled at reformatting data (most often in excel format) to import into various database platforms. The key is to know how to format it. Is there any help out there that can provide the formatting convention that Logos BW import tool uses? Blessings, Tc

Robert Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1251079#Comment_1251079

Bibleworks note files are, by default, rich text files with an extension of .bww. However, the editor can also handle .rtf, .txt, and .htm files. Bibleworks notes can be chapter notes, verse notes, or general notes (not connected to a particular chapter or verse).

Bibleworks uses the name of the file, and its location, to indicate which book, chapter, and verse to associate it with. For example: 1Pe1.bww is a chapter note for 1 Peter 1. A file named 1_2.bww and contained in the 1Pe folder is a verse note for 1 Peter 1:2.

Thomas A Cison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1251775#Comment_1251775

Thank you Robert. Do you by chance have an example file that Logos can import that I can use to model after? I would like to import chapter notes, verse notes, general notes and highlights if possible.

Blessings always! Tc

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

I amassed a copious volume of notes there, but it keeps crashing and losing some of them. Fortunately, they back them all up in .xml format, which I can then download and dump into Excel. Does Logos have a similar function?

A desktop alternative to ponder is Personal Books. Logos Wiki has

Personal Books : LT Personal Books + VT Personal Books

My desktop Logos library has a couple Personal Book Bibles with Chapter & Verse milestones. Same milestone structure could be used for a Personal Book Commentary.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Robert Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1251777#Comment_1251777

Yes I do. I've successfully imported quite a few notes. I'll try out some different things and get some examples to you.

Robert

Thomas A Cison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1251874#Comment_1251874

You have already made my day!!! Thank you very much.

Blessings, Tc

Robert Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1251901#Comment_1251901

Thomas, try this out and see if it works for you.

Importing Bibleworks.zip

I'm including both rtf and bww files, since I've verfied that Logos will import either one correctly. It will probably be easiest for you to use rtf.

The ZIP file contains a folder called Import notes. Inside this folder are several rtf files. One file is 1Pe1.rtf. This contains a chapter note for 1 Peter 1. The other rtf files at the top level are also chapter notes.

There are two folders named 1Pe (verse notes for 1 Peter) and Col (verse notes for Colossians). The contain files with names similar to 1_2.rtf. THe verse number is the chapter, the second number is the verse. When they are imported, Logos will know which book they belong to by the name of the folder.

There is also a folder called Editor Notes. The files inside could have been put at the top level. I just put them in a subfolder to make it easier for you to see the other files. None of these files is directly connected with a book chapter or verse, though they may have verse references inside them

There is also a books.csv file outside of the Import Notes folder. This is a file that Bibleworks uses to identify book abbreviations. I believed if you use this naming scheme Logos will recognized the boks correctly. The top lines of it look like this:

Abbreviation Full Name Alternate 1 Alternate 2 Alternate 3 Alternate 4 Alternate 5 Alternate 6
Gen Genesis Gen. Gen Genesis Gn 1mo
Exo Exodus Exod. Exo Exodus Ex 2mo
Lev Leviticus Lev. Lev Leviticus Lv 3mo
Num Numbers Num. Num Numbers Nu 4mo
Deu Deuteronomy Deut. Deu Deuteronomy Dt 5mo Deut.

You are interested in the first two columns. If tou want to import any notes from Genesis, put all the verse notes in a folder named Gen, with each verse file named #_#.rtf, where the first # is the chapter, and the second is the verse. Outside of this you would place any chapter notes named Gen#.rtf, where # is the chapter number.

You can name any general notes anything you want. One thing I'be noticed, it might be best to include the note title as the first line in the note file, since the file name won't be visible after import.

Yu may know this already, but to import, first unzip into a convenient folder, then in command box enter (without the quotes) "import bibleworks noters from" followed by the the path to the Import Notes Folder. For example, if Import Notes is on C:\, you would enter "import bibleworks noters from C:\Import Notes". Logos will do it's thing, (it will take a while, depending on the number of notes) and in a bit the notes will appear in the Imported Notes notebook. If you already have Imported Notes, it will be named Imported Notes (2), etc.

All of the chapter and verse notes will have anchors to the correct location.. The editor notes won't, since bibleworks doesn't explicitly associate any note with a book chapter or verse, except through the naming convention used by chapter and verse notes.

If you look at the notes, you'll see there are some non-functional hyper links. This is what Bibleworks uses to navigate to other files, and even to allow pop-ups of the bible references. Logos can't make use of those, so it just leaves them alone. You can go ahead and remove any hyperlinks.

One thing I've also noticed is that any graphics included in the BIbleworks files don't survive the import.

Let me know if this works for you. If my explanation is too confusing, let me know, and I'll try to clarify.

Blessings to you also, Robert

Thomas A Cison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1251997#Comment_1251997

This is great Robert, thank you so much! I will most likely start with a few and then grow as my confidence grows. I will be sure to let you know how it goes.

Thanks again, and blessings always,

Robert Taylor

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252060#Comment_1252060

You're quite welcome Thomas. The only thing that I can't help you with is importing highlights, since Bibleworks does attach highlights to notes.

My main study has always been in Bibleworks. I've had Logos for a while, but I'm just starting to use it as my main tool. I'm starting to learn how to use it better. I'm also trying to figure out how to use it in conjunction with Bibleworks, since I have a lot of resources that came as part of the base package of Bibleworks, and it would cost me quite a bit to get those same resources in Logos.

Blessings.

Robert

Thomas A Cison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252095#Comment_1252095

Thanks Robert. I just wanted to give you an update that I finally had success importing general notes (thanks for the tip to include the note title as the first line of the note), chapter notes and verse notes. Highlighting import would be nice, but its not the as important as my notes are. I am pursing a few other sources as well. I joined the BibleWorks forum just to ask for help there too. Who knows what people might be able to help me with. Thank you again for all the help and work you did to get me so much farther than I had in I don't know how long...

Blessings always! Tc