Anyone preached with the help ChatGPT yet?

PEW

I was playing with ChatGPT with my friend who just preached from Isaiah 54 verse 8.

We compared the results and found that AI brought out some really fun nuances that he missed e.g. covenant angle etc.

The interesting part was that the AI also includes benediction at the end!

AI might the be the new "spell-check" tool that will be using along with other search engines and softwares.

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Don Awalt

Be careful, we are at the very beginning of what likely will be a drawn-out legal battle on copyright related to these AI engines. You see, these AI engines curate from sources - those sources are copyrighted and that in some cases receive royalties. I think it's far from clear how this issue is going to be settled, and what changes to law etc. will result. It's also not clear to the user of an AI engine what specific source(s) were curated for replies, so citing sources or validating it's ok to use a source seems difficult if not impossible to me. Depending on what is being used from an AI engine, I think it could be an idea unique enough that an author could claim copyright damages.

Given all that, imho using AI-generated answers publicly is inherently risky right now. Others may disagree of course.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252573#Comment_1252573

I very much doubt Christian users are particularly concerned with source-theft. Observationally. Hot-sins, yes.

But more humorously, we used to guess which commentary our pastor had used that week. Now, it'll be, which AI engine.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252582#Comment_1252582

In the understanding of sermon/homily in my tradition, an AI sermon would be the equivalent of being fed a Stouffer's frozen meal in a fine dining restaurant ... a real kerfuffle in San Francisco in the early 70's. It is okay to read someone else's sermon but one has to be able to trust the wisdom behind it. AI to assist research is fine.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252587#Comment_1252587

In the understanding of sermon/homily in my tradition, an AI sermon would be the equivalent of being fed a Stouffer's frozen meal in a fine dining restaurant ... a real kerfuffle in San Francisco in the early 70's. It is okay to read someone else's sermon but one has to be able to trust the wisdom behind it. AI to assist research is fine.

Agreed.

Especially considering how loosely some of them hold to reality.

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252587#Comment_1252587

In the understanding of sermon/homily in my tradition, an AI sermon would be the equivalent of being fed a Stouffer's frozen meal in a fine dining restaurant ... a real kerfuffle in San Francisco in the early 70's. It is okay to read someone else's sermon but one has to be able to trust the wisdom behind it. AI to assist research is fine.

I agree. And being a "roll your own" kind of guy.... I would not use it other than for research and such...

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252624#Comment_1252624

With the way things are and people from the past having done most of the heavy lifting for us, there are only a few preachers out there who literally create their own sermons or come up with their own ideas. Most borrow material; especially on practical topics. I’ve literally seen preachers use outlines from books and even manuscripts with a tweak here and there — some do a good job, others don’t — There’s nothing new under the sun!

DAL

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252631#Comment_1252631

there are only a few preachers out there who literally create their own sermons or come up with their own ideas.

I suspect this varies by denomination and, in my case, by religious order. But then again, we expect daily sermons with the major effort placed on the Sunday sermon. I suspect I have heard (and given) more extemporaneous sermons than you. The memorable one: guess who was presiding over the service in lieu of Mass on September 11, 2001? As I was walking in our pastor, who was gardening, looked up gave me a big smile, and said "good luck".

Simon’s Brother

Not my cup of tea or coffee. As Abraham Lincoln said you can’t believe everything generated by AI.

mike

I tried using it just for giggles...and it gave me good devotional bullet points. Although they're pretty simple, but that exactly what I needed, because our congregation cannot always swallow John MacArthur exposition, and chatGPT gives more of a Rick Warren's take on a passage. So I appreciate the help after I've done my homework.

I know probably there are pastors would love the congregation to know everything what they wrote down during the sermon prep, but the most difficult thing for me is the cutting down the message into a 20minute slot, and chatGPT helped a little towards that goal. Idk if that make sense.

PEW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252656#Comment_1252656

I see it almost like a spell check or other grammar check idea of assisting currently. It almost give a very basic commentary approach. With other words, really handy for people who do not have money to get "deeper" commentaries.

I also talked to lots of university students who uses it as an assistant to start a draft essay and then use it expand their thoughts. AI by itself alone is just a C+paper.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252679#Comment_1252679

I asked “Describe Toxic Behavior” and it gave me information that’s very similar to a book that’s currently in prepub 👍😃👌 Below is the ChatGPT article and here’s the link to the book: https://www.logos.com/product/248255/how-to-deal-with-toxic-people

Toxic behavior refers to actions, attitudes, and habits that are harmful or damaging to others, often with the intention of exerting power or control. It can take many forms and can be exhibited by individuals, groups, or entire cultures. Some examples of toxic behavior include:

Verbal abuse: This includes yelling, name-calling, belittling, and insulting others. It can be used to manipulate or control others and can cause significant emotional harm.
Gaslighting: Gaslighting is a form of emotional abuse that involves manipulating someone into questioning their own perceptions, memories, and sanity. It can be used to make someone doubt themselves or feel crazy.
Manipulation: Manipulation involves using tactics such as guilt-tripping, playing the victim, or using emotional blackmail to get what one wants. It can be used to control others and can be very harmful.
Intimidation: Intimidation involves using threats or physical force to get what one wants. It can be used to control others and can be very harmful.
Passive-aggressiveness: Passive-aggressive behavior involves indirectly expressing anger or frustration, often through sarcasm or subtle insults. It can be used to manipulate others and can cause significant emotional harm.

Overall, toxic behavior is characterized by a lack of empathy and concern for others and a desire to exert power or control over others. It can be very damaging to individuals and communities and should be addressed and confronted when it occurs.

PEW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252756#Comment_1252756

As someone was mentioning in this forum, there might be a copyright lawsuit tsunami coming in. Even this morning there was an article about these big companies writing an open letter to stall development.

Maybe it's already too late. People got a taste of it. And it is very handy when piggybacked on existing search engines and softwares.

Logos AI integration would be awesome down the road. At the moment somethings are just faster with search engines. Got some friends that laugh at me for spending thousands of dollars on Logos while they get their work done with web searches.

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1252844#Comment_1252844

I am using it regularly for sermon illustrations but decided I would not trust it for passage exegesis or outlines.

I also have access to Adobe Firefly AI image creator. I used it to create some beaut images for my sermon on Lord’s Supper.