Search Help: Proper Nouns in Parables

Justin Gatlin
Justin Gatlin Member Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I think that most people know that Lazarus is the only proper name in any of Jesus's parables (which has led some people to believe it is not a parable). But parables are a form in both Greek and Hebrew literature before the time of Jesus, and I am wondering if and when proper names were used outside of the Bible. The only OT example I can find of a parable with proper names is Ezekiel 23. Does anyone have any ideas?

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,102

    Well, that's annoying ... I thought literaryTyping:Parable AND louwNida:93.1-93.388  would be a good starting point but it picks up the speaker of the parable not just the parable itself. A great example of why I hate verses as a unit of text rather than merely a place marker in text. Now I'm going to have to really think hard about it.

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  • Martin Wetzel
    Martin Wetzel Member Posts: 69 ✭✭

    Not very exact, but maybe a approximation: Bible search: literaryTyping:Parable AND (morph.h:NP NOT person:God)

  • Well, that's annoying ... I thought literaryTyping:Parable AND louwNida:93.1-93.388  would be a good starting point but it picks up the speaker of the parable not just the parable itself.

    Bible Search louwNida:93.1-93.388 IN literaryTyping:Parable highlights Name while Bible Search louwNida:93.1-93.388 AND literaryTyping:Parable highlights Parable typing:

    Not very exact, but maybe a approximation: Bible search: literaryTyping:Parable AND (morph.h:NP NOT person:God)

    Bible Search ((morph.h:NP NOT person:God) OR louwNida:93.1-93.388) IN literaryTyping:Parable highlights Names:

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,674

    I thought literaryTyping:Parable AND louwNida:93.1-93.388  would be a good starting point but it picks up the speaker of the parable not just the parable itself. A great example of why I hate verses as a unit of text

    The alternative label:parable also suffers from verse alignment, so one has to remove mention of Jesus e.g.

    (louwNida:93.1-93.388 NOT EQUALS person:Jesus) IN parable:speaker:person:Jesus

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  • Martin Wetzel
    Martin Wetzel Member Posts: 69 ✭✭

    For OT results: if you first run a search: literaryTyping:Parable , then build a Passage List from the 229 Results and then run a syntax search against this Passage List with 

    you get 86 highlightes Names als Results

  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 676 ✭✭

    I think that most people know that Lazarus is the only proper name in any of Jesus's parables (which has led some people to believe it is not a parable).

    The passage in Lk16 also speaks of Abraham (Abraham's bosom) ... thus Lazarus is actually not the only proper name in this parable.

    A parable is a figure of speech in form of an extended comparison (a story which usually emphasizes one particular point), and it is irrelevant whether the story designates a person by means of a proper name or uses a more general designation (e.g. "a sower"... "a judge", etc.).  Just as no one would regard the story about the sower and the seed to be a literal report about a farmer sowing seed, but recognizes it to be a parable to emphasize a different point, so no one should regard the story about Lazarus and Abraham as a literal report of events, but recognize it to be another parable.

    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)