Label search
Is there a such thing as label search, I did the research and created labels & a label notebook doc to test
and follow FL SUGGESTION online with no success. I notice the issues from related post from the past
does somebody know search label has been fix or the issue still exists even until now.
label prayer:name:=David "looking for answers"
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Robert Rutkowski said:
Is there a such thing as label search,
Yes - as below
Please provide screenshots to show the details of the labels you have created and an example of the search you are trying
Or - to check it further and for Logos to generate the search for you:
- RIght-click on a piece of text containing a label
- Select the label on the left side of the context menu
- Run a Bible search
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Thx for your screen shot example it help me realize what was wrong with the search problem and some label setup, their so much more to learn about labeling, wish they had a video on just labels, like logos very much thx much for get start..
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Robert Rutkowski said:
Thx for your screen shot example it help me realize what was wrong with the search problem and some label setup, their so much more to learn about labeling, wish they had a video on just labels, like logos very much thx much for get start..
See https://wiki.logos.com/New_Search_HELP#Label_Searches and note the section for User Labels (ones you create).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Robert Rutkowski said:
wish they had a video on just labels
In addition to Dave's link you might find https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028814371-Using-Labels helpful
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Thx guys for taking the time out
I really like the software I have other Bible software, I think Logos has best searches for just bible but you have learn them.
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Hi Graham...
on a related point to this - when I search for a user label created as a highlighting style it brings up the passages I have highlighted with the label no problem.
But when I do an "all" search... it doesn't bring up Notes that i have added this label to? Is there something I am missing?
And can labels be fully searchable on mobile?
thanks,
Sam
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Hi Sam
Sam Larkin said:But when I do an "all" search... it doesn't bring up Notes that i have added this label to? Is there something I am missing?
It doesn't bring up the notes - but it should bring up the passages in books that you have added the labels to. Are you seeing this?
Sam Larkin said:And can labels be fully searchable on mobile?
I don't believe they are at the moment.
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No Graham it doesn't bring it up at all in an "All" search - not even the reference.
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I have Notes with the label "Elders" in them. Some "Elders label" have the attributes of "Purpose" and "value" of leaders.
I have not found a way using Search to have my verses or my notes appear when I try to search for label:Elders. I tried All, Bible, Books, Morph, Docs. No results.
What am I doing wrong?
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
I have Notes with the label "Elders" in them. Some "Elders label" have the attributes of "Purpose" and "value" of leaders.
I have not found a way using Search to have my verses or my notes appear when I try to search for label:Elders.
label:Elders should produce results
.Here I created a label called Ruler in a note and label:Ruler produces results
Also label:(ruler AND rank:watchers) will find this specific label.
The abbreviated format ruler:rank:watchers is not recognised for user created labels, but you can use label.ruler:rank:watchers i.e. label followed by a period/stop.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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My labels have brackets in them...would that be a factor as to why notes with labels are not being found on the search?
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I have tried to recreate what you have done Dave and I am not getting any search results...
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Sam Larkin said:
I have tried to recreate what you have done Dave and I am not getting any search results.
You need to use a note by highlight rather than a note by reference (as shown in your screenshot).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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yes that worked Dave - thankyou very much.
Although not anchoring it to the reference means that it won't show up in other versions on mobile which perhaps limits its use.
thanks again,
Sam
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Sam Larkin said:
I have tried to recreate what you have done Dave and I am not getting any search results...
Me too....no results...
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Can you post a screen shot of your definition of the label from the highlighting palette?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Not sure how to do that..... I don't use highlights.... I do have a Note with a label as shown.... may have to scroll down....
So, I open Search type in Label:Elders and get nothing.....
So, I open Search type in label:Elders and get nothing....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
Not sure how to do that..... I don't use highlights.... I do have a Note with a label as shown..
As I stated above, you need a note by selection as your screenshot shows a note by reference.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
As I stated above, you need a note by selection as your screenshot shows a note by reference.
xnman said:I have Notes with the label "Elders" in them. Some "Elders label" have the attributes of "Purpose" and "value" of leaders.
I have not found a way using Search to have my verses or my notes appear when I try to search for label:Elders. I tried All, Bible, Books, Morph, Docs. No results.
What am I doing wrong?
I have not used Labels in Notes yet because, despite spending time reading about it (Dave's help before and wiki etc), I couldn't truly comprehend the unique use cases for Label - i.e., where Labels are better to use compared to Tags.
If I understood Dave, for a Label search on Notes to show up, the Note should be based on Selection rather than verse reference. To me, that limits the attractiveness of Labels because Tags can be used in Notes whether it is by Selection or by Reference,
xnman: Why not use Tags exclusively? In your case, why not use Elders-Purpose and Elders-Value (or Elders-Purpose-Value depending on what hierarchy you have in mind). Then you can create Notes using references and search using Tags. As far as I know, there is no limit to the number of tags. I'm already at 500+. If my understanding is correct, searching mytag:Elders would bring up Notes on Elders-Purpose and Elders-Value. But if you want to limit the search output to just Notes with Elders-Purpose, then do search on mytag:Elders-Purpose.
I believe in a Win-Win-Win God.
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I have some of my labels.set up qith a sub label e.g.Christ-Teaching-Parables. If i wanted to find all occurences with labels which include Christ-Teaching...what is thr syntax for doing this?
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1Cor10:31 said:
for a Label search on Notes to show up, the Note should be based on Selection rather than verse reference. To me, that limits the attractiveness of Labels because Tags can be used in Notes whether it is by Selection or by Reference,
I agree, so we should support the suggestion to allow-labels-to-be-added-to-reference-anchors!
And there are already some suggestions for a Label facet to more easily find them in the Notes tool:-
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Sam Larkin said:
I have some of my labels.set up qith a sub label e.g.Christ-Teaching-Parables. If i wanted to find all occurences with labels which include Christ-Teaching...what is thr syntax for doing this?
See https://wiki.logos.com/New_Search_HELP#Label_Searches and come back with any questions (also see my examples in a previous post).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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hi Dave,
had read through the wiki pages but couldn't make sense of it in regards matching parts of labels. It seemed to describe more labels with different attributes etc.
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Sam Larkin said:
It seemed to describe more labels with different attributes etc.
The whole purpose of labels is to be able to associate attributes to the text. What are you trying to use a label for? How did you define the label?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Hi MJ...
I have multiple labels.....some with attributes etc and values....
What my query is if i have a set of basic labels/"sub labels", for example...
Doctrine-Salvation-Redemption
Doctrine-Salvation-Justification etc
How do I do a search for every label that, for example, has "Doctrine" included "Doctrine-Salvation"? Is there a simple way to do it rather than having to use the OR syntax and type/paste each one in??
thanks
Sam
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Unfortunately, the concept of "sub-labels" is not known to me in the Logos context. Are you possibly talking about tags? With tags you can have partial matches and do something similar to what you are trying to do.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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no I use tags as well, but labels are useful for marking up the text visually - my limited understanding is that you cannot see tags visually within the text, just on the notes.
ok forget the terminology sub label!
If I have the three labels below is there a way to find occurrences of them all easily in one search?
Doctrine
Doctrine-Salvation
Doctrine-Salvation-Propitiation
thanks again.
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No, I know of no way to use a partial match on a label name. What I would have done for this sort of problem is create a custom palette with the tags but that only works with a limited number of tags. The custom palette can be applied either through manual highlighting or by a visual filter.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Sam Larkin said:
If I have the three labels below is there a way to find occurrences of them all easily in one search?
Doctrine
Doctrine-Salvation
Doctrine-Salvation-Propitiation
Your three labels are three Highlight styles if you created them via the Highlighting tool. If you added the labels via the Notes tool, then you have the highlight style of the note/highlight to which they were applied. Either way you lost the ability to find occurrences of them in one search because you were thinking of labels as Tags. If you had done the latter, your Search would be mytag:doctrine. And mytag:doctrine-salvation would find occurrences of the Salvation subcategory.
If you created a single Doctrine label with an attribute of Salvation, you could search for label:doctrine and label.doctrine:salvation:* (where the latter would find all values of Salvation, including Propitiation).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Hi MJ/Dave,
thankyou both for your responses. Just clarifying is there any way to visibly display attributes automatically with the label - i know they appear as you hover over them. Haven't seen this referred to anywhere in articles.
thanks,
Sam
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Sam Larkin said:
Just clarifying is there any way to visibly display attributes automatically with the label
This is shown in the Other References section of the Information Tool. And you can customise this section so it only shows the categories of information you are interested in
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thanks Graham!
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