Morph search vs Bible Search

If I do a Morph search on the NASB English Bible, book of Romans for the Greek lemma δίκαιος, I get 7 results in 7 verses which matches the same search in the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament. However, doing the same search under "Bible" in the NASB lists the exact same 7 verses and results as the other two, but says 9 results in 7 verses at the top. I can't figure out what the two extra "hits" are because the listings are identical. Please see the attached screen shots.
I noticed I had "-ed" selected on the Morph search, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
While this may seem a minor issue, it makes me wonder if I'm searching correctly and if Logos is in fact finding all references to a particular word. Thank you for any insights into this.

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Graham Criddle

Hi Thomas - and welcome to the forums

And great question!

If I do a Morph search on the NASB English Bible, book of Romans for the Greek lemma δίκαιος, I get 7 results in 7 verses which matches the same search in the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament. However, doing the same search under "Bible" in the NASB lists the exact same 7 verses and results as the other two, but says 9 results in 7 verses at the top.

The difference between the two searches is to do with the setting for Reference Matching. Your Morph search is set to use Default matching while the Bible search is using Broad.

If you change either search to match the other you will get the same number of results in both.

The actual "duplicates" are in Romans 1:17 and 3:10 (I found this by changing the search range) so there is an equivalent term tagged to the lemma in those verses. I can't tell, however, what that equivalent term is.

Hope this helps, Graham

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1260634#Comment_1260634

The actual "duplicates" are in Romans 1:17 and 3:10 (I found this by changing the search range) so there is an equivalent term tagged to the lemma in those verses. I can't tell, however, what that equivalent term is.

If you look in Factbook for δίκαιος (Greek Lemma) it has a Search (in See also > more) for:

term:(lemma.g:δίκαιος OR milestone:lemma.g:δίκαιος OR headword:δίκαιος OR δίκαιος) --> the extra result comes from the MSS word δίκαιος.

Similarly, lemma.g:ἀγαθός gets extra results from term:(lemma.g:ἀγαθός OR ἀγᾰθός).

I have seen that the Search Factbook provides for a datatype is equivalent to a Broad reference match (NB. it is meant to be run with Narrow!).

However, you won't see any discrepancy if you run the lemma query on a Greek bible. I'll create a bug report for RI's, BUT

Avoid Broad reference matching for lemmas in Bibles
Broad reference matching may make sense outside bibles (see the expanded search term above).

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1260643#Comment_1260643

If you look in Factbook for δίκαιος (Greek Lemma) it has a Search (in See also > more) for:

term:(lemma.g:δίκαιος OR milestone:lemma.g:δίκαιος OR headword:δίκαιος OR δίκαιος) --> the extra result comes from the MSS word δίκαιος.

Thanks Dave

Thomas T Northrop

Thank you both Graham and Dave for your help. This makes more sense now. Dave, I'm not sure this is really a bug since the search results are based on the tagging of words which most likely has a well thought out strategy behind it.

Matt Mattox

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1260694#Comment_1260694

Replied here --> https://community.logos.com/forums/p/216500/1261512.aspx#1261512. Future updates will be commented on that forum post.