Logos on iPad is almost a book reader, but not exactly a Bible Study App
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Kolen,
We all have different opinions and expectations. I disagree with your conclusion. There are many features that make this a Bible study app:
1. The passage guide
2. Text comparison
3. Tap on a word and get the Greek/Hebrew and a link to a bible word study report including pronunciation of the Greek.
4. Cited By search to your collections that have been set up.
5. I could go on...
However, in my humble opinion it is much more than a book reader. Download a free version of KJV in iBook and see if you can do any of the above... Again, I respect your opinion, but disagree with your conclusion.. it is an overstatement. There is always room for improvements, which I am certain you will see in the coming months.
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John Fidel said:
Text comparison
I have another post pointing out that only 1 of about 10 dictionaries that I have displayed in iPad, even all of them are made available on iPad.
So, when I want to search a word in NIDNTT, I need to open that resources and locate that by hand.
So, it is still a book reader in the practical sense.
If your app can do what I mentioned (word study including NIDNTT, for example), then at least there is a bug in the app that mine doesn't display it.
I wish I can printscreen to let you see some pictures.
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John Fidel said:
it is an overstatement.
Right. I don't know what an native speaker perceive it, but overstatement is a way to emphasize the problem.
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By the way, a book reader is better than nothing. At least I can read the NIDNTT, etc. in my mobile device.
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Kolen Cheung said:
Open a Bible to your chosen verse, flick up, search for citations, then click on entire library and select your collection and your have your search.
Kolen, by overstating your position I feel you discount your position because it does not consider all the facts. When users read it they do not get a true picture of what the software can do beyond an e book reader. Why do you need to create the drama? Do you think it will make Logos work faster to make the program the way you want it? Or do you think perhaps it may influence some not to try the program because of your overstatement of your position? In what way is overstating your position constructive to this process?
I realize there are differences in languages and cultures and do not intend to be argumentative, only to provide a few facts that your position fails to provide to those reading this post. Now, I think we will both agree that when offline, currently the Logos app is little more than and e book reader... common ground.
All the best.
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I changed the topic as you stated.
But by the way, I really don't want the others do the same thing as a did - to buy an iPad for Bible Study in Logos. If one want to read books in Logos, it is still very good, but one should check if those books they want appear in library.logos.com first.
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By the way, may be I am pessimistic, I am not making a suggestion to improve it, but simply stating the fact that one shouldn't buy an iPad for Bible Study in Logos. It is far from a Bible Study App. Even premature than a very small company, Larixxxx. Of course the latter is specialized in Bible Study Software in mobile devices and so they have their adv.
And one should only buy the iPad if they want to have an ebook reader, reading all the spiritual books they can access through iPad (same as library.logos.com)
And I hope that doesn't sounds like one shouldn't buy Logos4, which is still the best Bible Study software on the Earth.
Sorry if there is any confusion.
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I just got my iPad on Monday. Personally, I'd say that it's somewhere in the middle of reader and Bible Study. I love reading on it. The iPad is great for email, reading pdf books, and web browsing. It's a decent personal video player. As for Logos, I find it to be a very good book reader but with some of the powerful Bible study features of L4. I love the word study feature. I do find it to be limiting as compared to using L4 on my desktop but this app is not supposed to replace L4, it's supposed to compliment it. This is my L4 away from home. It was a great help in the church Bible study last night and everyone was fairly impressed with it. So, I guess my bottom line is that I mostly agree with both of you. I find the app to be more than a reader. It would be good to find a way to expand the feature set but it's not too bad for away from home.
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I think it's perfect for daily devotionals with light bible study. For example, I read the Morning & Evening or Quit Hour entry for the day, then click on the passage fragment and go read the whole context. Then I check out whatever commentaries are available for that series of verses. Kind of random bible surfing. I wish there were more devotionals available for mobile devices.
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Kolen Cheung said:
This is my conclusion after buying an iPad for Logos.
Hopefully as more L4 features become available to you on your ipad, you will find it more valuable as a bible study app.
If you absolutely hate it - I bet you could "unload" (sell) it for not to horrible of a loss - I'd buy a discounted used Ipad.
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Michael Birney said:
If you absolutely hate it
Kolen Cheung said:By the way, a book reader is better than nothing. At least I can read the NIDNTT, etc. in my mobile device.
I type that before in case some one think that I hate it.
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Doug said:
This is my L4 away from home. It was a great help in the church Bible study last night and everyone was fairly impressed with it.
Good that you satisfy with it in a Bible Study Group. But I would bring my own laptop to the Bible Study tonight.
What I can think of is sermon. Since it is kind of weird to open a laptop during sermon (mind is very big, 15"), iPad might be better.
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If anyone think that this post is too pessimistic, please go to
Alternatives of Logos in iPad
posted by me. hope that it can turn the iPad into real Bible Study tool.
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