How do I search for nouns associated with a particular person (i.e. God's heart)

Jim Fox
Jim Fox Member Posts: 2
edited November 21 in English Forum

I am studying the heart, and want to find references to heart that refer to God's heart.  (In the time of search how to do this, I could have scrolled through all the verses with 'heart' in them, but I want to learn how to do this.)

Using heart and "person:God" in a search or the Bible Sense Lexicon bring verses where God is in the verse, but they do not limit the use of heart only to God's heart. I can see ways of associating verbs to a subject or object, but not a noun and it's possessor. 

Bible Themes was helpful because it distinguished "5013 heart, divine" and "5014 heart, human" but it was also overly broad including other 'internal' concepts like joy and delight, whereas I was looking specifically for the use of 'heart'.  

Thank you!

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,674

    Using heart and "person:God" in a search or the Bible Sense Lexicon bring verses where God is in the verse, but they do not limit the use of heart only to God's heart.

    Try  heart WITHIN 2 WORDS person:God 

    It is not easy to restrict it to God's heart, but 150+ results should be easy to deal with

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,089

    I would take a different tack. God has no heart. Any use of heart is anthropomorphism. Therefore, I would search a Bible for figureofSpeech:(name:Anthropopatheia) INTERSECTS heart which yields 38 results

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,674

    I would take a different tack. God has no heart. Any use of heart is anthropomorphism. Therefore, I would search a Bible for figureofSpeech:(name:Anthropopatheia) INTERSECTS heart which yields 38 results

    I did see Anthropopatheia  in Context menu, but  there is no definition in my library! FL should have used Anthropopathism[:D]

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,089

    This is a case of documentation as esoteric knowledge. I'll trust that you know the secret handshake.

    [quote]

    Anthropopatheia; or, Condescension

    The Ascribing of Human Attributes, etc., to God.

    An-thrōp´-o-path-ei´-a. Greek, ἀνθρωποπάθεια, from ἄνθρωπος (anthropos), man, and πάθος (pathos), affections and feelings, etc. (from πάσχειν, paschein), to suffer).
    This figure is used of the ascription of human passions, actions, or attributes to God.
    The Hebrews had a name for this figure, and called it דֶרֶךְ בְנֵי אָדָם (Derech Benai Adam), the way of the sons of man.
    The Greeks had another name for it: SYNCATABASIS (Syn´-cat-ab´-a-sis), from σύν (syn), together with, κατά (kata), down, and βαίνειν (bainein), to go: a going down together with: i.e., God, by using this figure, condescends to the ignorance and infirmity of man.
    Hence, the Latin name for it was CONDESCENSIO, condescension.


    Ethelbert William Bullinger, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible (London; New York: Eyre & Spottiswoode; E. & J. B. Young & Co., 1898), 871.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a case of documentation as esoteric knowledge. I'll trust that you know the secret handshake.

    [quote]

    Anthropopatheia; or, Condescension

    The Ascribing of Human Attributes, etc., to God.

    An-thrōp´-o-path-ei´-a. Greek, ἀνθρωποπάθεια, from ἄνθρωπος (anthropos), man, and πάθος (pathos), affections and feelings, etc. (from πάσχειν, paschein), to suffer).
    This figure is used of the ascription of human passions, actions, or attributes to God.
    The Hebrews had a name for this figure, and called it דֶרֶךְ בְנֵי אָדָם (Derech Benai Adam), the way of the sons of man.
    The Greeks had another name for it: SYNCATABASIS (Syn´-cat-ab´-a-sis), from σύν (syn), together with, κατά (kata), down, and βαίνειν (bainein), to go: a going down together with: i.e., God, by using this figure, condescends to the ignorance and infirmity of man.
    Hence, the Latin name for it was CONDESCENSIO, condescension.


    Ethelbert William Bullinger, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible (London; New York: Eyre & Spottiswoode; E. & J. B. Young & Co., 1898), 871.

    343 hits for Anthropopathism in my Library (29k+ resources)

    258 hits for Anthropopatheia

    Based on the definitions I can find in my reference books, these two words are synonyms. And indeed, many writers online refer to one with "or" + the other, in optional parentheses, afterwards). It seems to be a case of Dave being familiar with one version of this and you being familiar with the other. I was familiar with neither, but have now learned something new from this exchange.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,674

     It seems to be a case of Dave being familiar with one version of this and you being familiar with the other. I was familiar with neither, but have now learned something new from this exchange.

    I, too, was familiar with neither!

    Now I know that  anthropo- /ˈanƟrəpəʊ/

      ■ combining form human; relating to human beings: anthropology.
      —ORIGIN from Greek anthrōpos ‘human being’

    Soanes, C., & Stevenson, A., eds. (2004). In Concise Oxford English Dictionary

    Dave
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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,089

    What I knew was anthropomorphic/ism and anthropology ... so I assumed the Greek name for the figure of speech.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jim Fox
    Jim Fox Member Posts: 2

    Thank you Dave, MJ and Rosie for the very helpful responses!  I appreciate your taking the time to give thought to my question and share your depth of experience.