page number alternatives?

David Stembridge
David Stembridge Member Posts: 37
edited November 21 in English Forum

I know this has been addressed... but I need a workaround. Anyone found a way to get page numbers outside logos?

I'm on a Mac using: 

Logos Bible Study 26.1

26.1.32

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) Member, MVP Posts: 36,472 ✭✭✭

    Anyone found a way to get page numbers outside logos?

    What do you mean? 

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,242 ✭✭✭

    get page numbers outside logos

    I have found that https://books.google.com/?hl=en has scans of many books. I can search the Google Book for a quote that is in the Logos File to get a page number. Google Books are 1) only scans so do NOT have all the advantages of a Logos Resource, and 2) the Google inventory often contains samples and NOT the whole book. so it is hit or miss with finding page numbers.

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  • David Stembridge
    David Stembridge Member Posts: 37

    Thanks, I have used this before, forgot about that!

  • David Stembridge
    David Stembridge Member Posts: 37

    How can one write an academic paper without page numbers?

    Is there anyway to find them, aside from a physical copy in the library?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How can one write an academic paper without page numbers?
    Most of the academic referencing standards have instructions on how to reference electronic sources without page numbers. Many Logos academic resources have page numbers. Can you provide some examples of books in Logos you are having trouble referencing?

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How can one write an academic paper without page numbers?

    Is there anyway to find them, aside from a physical copy in the library?

    Your original question said "outside Logos" so I assume you already know about turning on page numbers in Logos.

    But that only works for books that are indexed by page number, which is generally only the Logos Research edition books and Logos Reader edition books. Ebooks do not have page numbers.

    If a book has page numbers, you'll see this in the info panel:

    If a book has page numbers in Logos, then copying with citations should include the page number.

    Or you can turn on page numbers and see these visual makers of the page boundaries in the text:

    If the Logos book does not have page numbers, then as someone else pointed out you can sometimes find them in Google Books or the sample pages visible on Amazon, if you're lucky and the passage you're referencing is on one of those visible pages. If not, then you're probably out of luck, short of getting hold of a physical copy in a library or asking a librarian to look it up for you (some reference librarians will do this for you, but perhaps only for an institution that you are a member of or an alumnus of).

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) Member, MVP Posts: 36,472 ✭✭✭

    How can one write an academic paper without page numbers?

    The style guide likely provides an answer... but Universities and style guides should be more responsive to this situation. 

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭

    How can one write an academic paper without page numbers?

    Is there anyway to find them, aside from a physical copy in the library?

    Actually, my understanding would be that you don't cite the physical copy but the electronic copy when the electronic one was what you really looked at. The style guide that your institution uses should have a section on citing electronic resources.

    That said, the look-inside feature of Amazon will provide page numbers for citations - even when they are (as would be expected) in the bulk of the text which is not accessible for preview. As an example I used Greg A. Boyd's "God at war" which I don't own in Logos, but in a paper copy. It would actually be a good example since as an eBook edition it most certainly lacks page numbers in Logos. A random phrase from the book on page 163 is "Yahweh must battle the hostile waters": Putting this into the search bar of Amazon's look-inside feature will show the page number:

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    NB: As I said, I own this in print, not in Logos, so I put it in the PrintLibrary, thus searching the book for this phrase is possible in Logos - and it will give me a snippet of context to even cut and paste from (but obviously no page number). So while I'm at it I can share the screenshot from search: 

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