New Insights Sidebar on the web app

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  • Judy Green
    Judy Green Member Posts: 1

    I don’t like it.  It’s something that I have to turn off every time.  Takes up space.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,419 ✭✭✭

     It’s something that I have to turn off every time.  

    That's not good.

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  • Veronica Crawford
    Veronica Crawford Member Posts: 1

    Thank you for the insights feature - while it's similar to linking, it makes the process seem "easier" to glance while reading.  I would definitely use this feature and would ask that you add sections for cross references and Lexicon if you are considering future adaptations.  I think it's worth bringing to desktop, but i'm not sure about mobile.

  • ibukun olagbemi
    ibukun olagbemi Member Posts: 2

    Hi- I'm sure it's useful but personally I'd suggest that it be truly optional.  As it is, it occupies space on my reading screen every time I launch a Bible passage and it's obstructive to me.  I would like to have the whole screen be for the passage, as it was, and be able to pull up these study references in my own time.  It's actually getting in my way now because it takes up half the screen.  I guess others would use it, I have looked at it and don't find it helpful. If it must stay, please let it just be a tab that shows up, not something that automatically loads and takes up half of what I'm trying to read.  I love this app!  Thanks.

  • ibukun olagbemi
    ibukun olagbemi Member Posts: 2

    I'm with J.Green- I have to turn it off every time.

  • Juan P. Ramos
    Juan P. Ramos Member Posts: 1

    Hi! It's much practice to study 

  • Chrys Jones
    Chrys Jones Member Posts: 7

    I like it alot. When I need a quick insight from one of my commonly used resources, I don't have to link the resource to my Bible and have it scroll with me. It's not big, it's not in the way, and it provides quick hits from two of my most commonly used resources. Great tool. Can't wait to see it built out!

  • Zach White
    Zach White Member Posts: 1

    I like it! I think if we could train this to look at commentaries or other resources that we do use that would be great. Almost like a filter to say, Hey can you only show these 3 commentaries and 2 word study resources as I hover? 

  • E. Morgan
    E. Morgan Member Posts: 1

    I didn't really know how I felt about this feature at first especially considering it cost me some screen real-estate (before I realized it can be closed out and re-expanded quite easily), however, I've found it to be more and more useful to me and I actually utilize regularly and love it now! I don't always know what resources to pull for my reading so I love the suggestions it presents to me and I appreciate the drop down menu to select other commentaries & study guides from my library if I'm not exactly happy with the ones it suggests. Although I do have my favorites, this feature has helped me discover other resources that I benefit from just as much as my favorites... if not more!  It's these types of thoughtful features that keeps me as a faithful Logos subscribed customer.

    My strong advice/feedback would be to keep this feature. The 'insights' tab is small enough and out of the way as to not clutter the the reading panel or desktop view at all whatsoever. Please don't kill a good and useful feature.

    Thanks in advance! :)

  • Dcn. Andy
    Dcn. Andy Member Posts: 2

    I don't really see the value in it.  I open the resources that I want to use and this just takes up space for the resources I am using.

  • Dcn. Andy
    Dcn. Andy Member Posts: 2

    What would be really nice is a setting to just turn it off, rather than having to turn it off each time my page refreshes.

  • Pastor Praise
    Pastor Praise Member Posts: 1

    I love this idea! "Insight" has tremendous potential, but let's focus on its development. As a long-time user of Logos products, I believe we should avoid making it like an ordinary commentary or study bible that scrolls with your bible. Instead, let's harness the power of AI to revolutionize the experience.

    Currently, with thousands of resources in our libraries, it's challenging to access and utilize all of them when preparing a message. Prioritizing resources may leave some underutilized, limiting our exploration of diverse perspectives. Here's the game-changing solution: let's power "Insight" with AI.

    When working on a topic, we can input key details like the main purpose of the series and relevant scriptures and select a message category (teaching, preaching, counselling, personal devotion, etc.). "Insight" will intelligently curate the most relevant resources from our library into at least three categories: commentary, monograph, and preaching resources. By doing so, it ensures that every resource is maximized and we discover more than just what we already know.

    With AI-driven curation, we'll uncover valuable insights we might have otherwise missed. This will elevate the potential of "Insight" to a whole new level. I am eager to engage in further discussions to make our beloved bible study tool even better. Let's keep and enhance "Insight" – it can be a game changer!

    Feel free to contact me to explore this further. Together, we can make our bible study experience richer and more meaningful.

  • Lukas
    Lukas Member Posts: 176 ✭✭

    Good day Mark can you say on what platform the passage guide will be quicker to get new feature, like the cross reference using the treasury of scripture, biblical people and places and systematic theology, as I am limited to mobile and tablet only don’t have laptop or desktop. So can only use web app also. So we on mobile cant make use of logos like desktop. So example the systematic theology we cant make use in passage guide so I don’t see a need to get it on logos if it only works as normal reading book. So for me it’s the same to get in a physical book instead of logos.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,888

    Thank you all for your feedback on the feature so far.

    Today we've added two new cards:

    • New Testament Use of the Old Testament
    • Parallel Passages

    Both cards require a licensed dataset or resource, so if you don't have a base package, you may not see both of the cards. They look like this: 

    We do have plans for other types of cross-references in the future.

  • Morgan
    Morgan Member Posts: 458 ✭✭

    Mark, would it be possible to reorder the different sections through drag and drop? We want might different information up top depending on our needs at that moment.

  • Cristian Klen
    Cristian Klen Member Posts: 2

    I loved it. Please keep it.

  • Lukas
    Lukas Member Posts: 176 ✭✭

    Good day Mark will the logos 10 starter be fine for this feature as I dont see any of the cards on my side

  • Solomon Worden
    Solomon Worden Member Posts: 1

    I like the Beta Insights, I usually have the BKC open and linked when going through the Bible, and this just saves me one extra step and I can now have several commentaries tracking with me in a convenient sidebar versus a whole panel, very thoughtful.  [:)]

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,462

    Good day Mark will the logos 10 starter be fine for this feature as I dont see any of the cards on my side

    Where are you looking?

    This is only currently available on the beta webapp site

  • André  Clemente
    André Clemente Member Posts: 11

    Vale a pena adicionar essa funcionalidade. Que seja opcional. Ativarmos quando quisermos. Tudo que vier agregar ao sistema é sempre bem vindo.

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  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭

    Good day Mark will the logos 10 starter be fine for this feature
    This is irrelevant. Go to app.logos.com and sign in and you should be good to go.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,480

    Good day Mark will the logos 10 starter be fine for this feature
    This is irrelevant. Go to app.logos.com and sign in and you should be good to go.

    I think it is only in beta, so the site would be https://beta.app.logos.com/

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  • Matt Hamrick
    Matt Hamrick Member Posts: 663 ✭✭

    Nope, I wish this was true but that insights is hindering me at app.logos.com.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,105

    Nope, I wish this was true but that insights is hindering me at app.logos.com.

    Simply close it. It is an optional sidebar.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,105

    I think it is only in beta,

    It's still labeled as beta but it appears on the main app.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,888

    I don’t like it.  It’s something that I have to turn off every time.  Takes up space.

    Thanks for the feedback. It might take a few weeks, but we'll make sure that the sidebar remembers that it has been toggled off, so you don't have to do it more than once.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,888

    let's harness the power of AI to revolutionize the experience

    We're currently experimenting with a bunch of AI-assisted features. AI-assisted search is already available for testing, and it recently gained a summarization feature. But we're looking at several other AI-assisted features too –  although whether that work will converge with the work on the Insights sidebar, it's too early to tell.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,888

    Good day Mark can you say on what platform the passage guide will be quicker to get new feature, like the cross reference using the treasury of scripture, biblical people and places and systematic theology, as I am limited to mobile and tablet only don’t have laptop or desktop. So can only use web app also. So we on mobile cant make use of logos like desktop. So example the systematic theology we cant make use in passage guide so I don’t see a need to get it on logos if it only works as normal reading book. So for me it’s the same to get in a physical book instead of logos.

    We'd love for the Passage Guide to be equivalent across all our platforms, because we know how useful it is. We're hoping to be able to make some improvements to the Cross References section of the Passage Guide on mobile and web in the next few months. Other improvements may take us longer, but it's good to hear they would be valued.

  • PL
    PL Member Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭

    experimenting with a bunch of AI-assisted features

    The Artifact news app just added a bunch of AI text-to-speech voices and they sound amazingly natural and engaging (as opposed to the still-mechanical, monotonous voices available to iOS / Logos desktop).

    https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/27/23810160/artifact-ai-text-to-speech-read-news-snoop-dogg-gwyneth-paltrow-speechify

    Any chance Logos will look into these natural voices to the mobile and desktop apps?