Numbering error in the gloss for Jude 1:5 in the Analytical Greek New Testament

There seems to be a numbering error in the AGNT. In Jude 5, the word "all", under πάντα has a red superscript 4, but it should be 5. The sequence is "1you 2having 3once 4known 4all [these] things", but it should be "1you 2having 3once 4known 5all [these] things".

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Noah

I tried to post this at:

https://faithlife.com/logos-resource-panel/activity

but an error occurred with this warning:

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I don't know if that page is working.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280537#Comment_1280537

OK, Noah ... I'm lost. Usually AGNT refers to Friberg's Analytical Greek New Testament (which isn't an RI).

Which resource are you referring to?

And welcome to the forum!!

Christian Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280548#Comment_1280548

I agree DMB I am lost as well.

Noah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280548#Comment_1280548

Yes. I am referring to Friberg's Analytical Greek New Testament. But I do not know what an RI is.

This is my first posting. Thank you for your help.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280731#Comment_1280731

RI is short for Reverse Interlinear, which follows the english word order, and a hebrew or greek matching line. On the matching line, there's little numbers that indicate the original word order. I thought that might be what you were referring to.

But since it's not, what litle numbers are you referring to, in AGNT?

Noah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280737#Comment_1280737

In the AGNT, the little numbers indicate the order we would use in English grammar. This is needed sometimes because the Greek word order is often not the same as the English.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280788#Comment_1280788

Well, Noah, I'm lost again ... I can't see little numbers in the AGNT in Logos. Can you show a screen shot (using the paper clip, when you're writing a post)?

OT: I was surprised AGNT includes the grapheme/number-count functionality. That was introduced in 2017 just for the SBL GNT.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280788#Comment_1280788

In the AGNT, the little numbers indicate the order we would use in English grammar. This is needed sometimes because the Greek word order is often not the same as the English.

What you say is correct for Reverse Interlinears, like the one you see in my screenshot on the right beneath the text on NIV - however, this is of course not needed in Greek New Testament texts that are printed in the original word order - as the AGNT is. See the AGNT in my screenshot on the left.

It seems the AGNT does not contain those word order numbers, whereas RIs regularly do, thus it might be you mistook the resource you are in and the bug you reported is in the RI of a modern language bible. A screenshot would likely help to sort this out.

EDIT: the translation "you having once known all" seems to be peculiar to the Literal Standard Version, but LSV has no RI in my library, and the word order numbers are not indicated by small red numbers either - are you looking at Logos at all? Again, a screenshot would help. See https://wiki.logos.com/screenshot

Noah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280789#Comment_1280789

Noah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280899#Comment_1280899

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280900#Comment_1280900

Thanks Noah!

It seems your bible is called AGNT Plus (UBS5) - actually a full-blown forward-interlinear I don't remember having ever seen. Do you mind sharing the ID of that book (information tab, way down below under Support Info)? DMB and myself were looking at a version of AGNT with much less functionality, LLS:1.0.318.