BUG? Calendar Devotional not showing up!

I have a personal book, "O Antiphons", that I use every Dec 17-24 - the days of the O Antiphons. I have used it probably for 5-6 years in Verbum, every Dec 17-24.

It is type Calendar Devotional, Just verified. But it does not show up in the calendar devotionals when I look for it, to turn it on for the Home Page starting Sunday. Why is it not showing up, are PB calendar devotionals no longer used on the list to added to the Home Page? Is this a bug? Help!

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NB.Mick

it does not show up in the calendar devotionals when I look for it, to turn it on for the Home Page starting Sunday. Why is it not showing up, are PB calendar devotionals no longer used on the list to added to the Home Page?

I see the same thing, but I see other PB calendar devotionals listed for adding home page cards. From my experience with lectionary PBs I think the reason most probably is that it is still the 16th of December and the list will only include books with a date index that is current or past - meaning I expect the Antiphons to appear on that list on the 17th. You can try to force it by putting in a fake entry for Dec 15th into the PB source and rebuilding it (I'd try myself but have to run now, "real life" calling)

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280812#Comment_1280812

Good suggestion Mick, I tried it but it did not seem to work - looking at my file, I made a copy, and then added a line

[[@DayOfYear:December 15]] and

[[@DayOfYear:December 16]]

I assume that's all I Needed to add?

with some stuff in each area, deleted the old file from the PB panel, added the new file, built it, and the next stuff came up in the resource but it still does not show in the Add Card for Daily Devotional. I even closed/reopend Verbum to see if it came up in the list, it did not.

So get this - I then deleted that file from the PB edit panel, re-added the original file, and built it. I checked the list of Daily Devotional cards, it's not there. But what is on my Home Page now? The O Antiphons! Even though you click on it and it goes to the beginning as the first date is tomorrow, it's on the Home Page! YET - it is NOT in the list of Daily Devotionals - this time I even went one by one through the whole list to make sure I didn't miss it by just looking in the O's or T's (The ) Antiphons).

So then, on a whim, I rebooted Verbum - sure enough, it's gone. It's like it kept something from the test file I built which qualified it to be on the Home Page. But now with the original file after a restart - it's gone again - and of course not on the list of Daily Devotional cards.

This is really acting screwy - I wish they would take a look at this.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280820#Comment_1280820

Oh another thing Mick - I tried building the file as a non-Calendar Devotional then rebuilt it as a Calendar devotional - wondering if something would be rest. That's didn't work either. Its seems they just are ignoring PBs in the Calendar devotionals list.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280829#Comment_1280829

Oh another thing Mick - I tried building the file as a non-Calendar Devotional then rebuilt it as a Calendar devotional - wondering if something would be rest. That's didn't work either. Its seems they just are ignoring PBs in the Calendar devotionals list.

I don't think that's the case, and I can see a number of those in that list in my Logos. But didn't you say it came up on the home page, once you had the date milestones in it? EDIT maybe it remembers the file from being set to appear on the home page from last year /EDIT If you have that, and take the tile down, it would be in the list, I suppose. So rebuild your test PB and see - or wait until tomorrow, Dec 17th.

EDIT: I put Dec 16th into the old PB source from 2018 and compiled as Calendar Devotional "Test The O Antiphons" and voila:

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280835#Comment_1280835

Ok thanks Mick, that gave me enough to figure out what's going on -- why I did --

1. "Good" (12/17-12/24) docx was being used for PB; verified it did NOT show up in the home page, and does not show in the list of devotionals.

2. I rebuilt with the "test" (12/15-12/24) docx - it popped up on the home Page upon a Verbum restart. I also verified it was NOT in the list of devotionals.

3. So I closed the Home page card, and it showed up in the list of devotionals.

4. I replaced the PB using the good docx - rebuilt - it's still in the list of devotionals. So now, I can either turn it on tomorrow morning, when it's 12/17, or tune it on now and it will pop up tomorrow.

The problem with this, is if one has a calendar devotional that is not active but was showing on the Hone Page, it will not show on the Home page today and it will not show in the devotionals list. So I must have had it turned on from last year. So you can ONLY turn off a calendar devotional if it is active on a day - by closing the Home Page card, or turning off the check box in the devotional list. Otherwise you are out of luck.

Not an idea solution, and I suspect that will never get fixed, but at least I know how it works now! Thanks Mick!

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280845#Comment_1280845

t I know how it works now! Thanks Mick!

You're very welcome. I think the (bad) design choice to take out from the list the devotionals that show on the home page is what threw you off in the first place. Better would be leaving them in just with a checked box, like any other application would do and Logos probably does in other comparable situations elsewhere. Still better they could include in a greyed-out format those that - from their existing Type/index - potentially could come in but have only a future index date. Then you would have seen your PB straight away.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1280847#Comment_1280847

Exactly. Another example of what MJ called the inconsistencies of UI across the app.

More significantly I remember in my earlier years being taught for UI design, it's a very bad design to make things appear and disappear - users won't know where they are, or if they even exist, all kinds of confusion can result. A much better design is it appears but as you say is grayed out, the checkbox is checked so the list always shows the current status of everything - those designs would be far less likely to confuse users. I think I discovered this point for the first time in one of the early Apple UI design guides for "proper" application software development.