Orthodox base packages are released
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Given that packages are standardized across traditions by value and price, I suspect paring out the value of resources equivalent to the Gottingen LXX would leave us with a rather unbalanced package. My experience is that Eastern Rite Catholics and Orthodox are probably more interested in patristics and traditional liturgical/spirituality resources. And it does include the Antioch Bible.[Y]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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KJB1611 said:
Shouldn't at least the Orthodox Platinum have the Gottingen Septuagint?
https://www.logos.com/product/4951/gottingen-septuagint
This is a major omission. If it were included, with upcoming volumes automatically added in as they were processed, I would buy the Platinum set immediately, in all likelihood.
I don't see how that would be a major omission personally, but there are licensing and distribution limitations that would prevent us from doing so either way.
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Since the Gottingen Septuagint is the standard critical edition of the LXX, leaving it out in a religious tradition that treats the LXX as inspired would be like having a Roman Catholic base package (Verbum) that leaves out, even at its very highest level, the standard critical edition of the Vulgate.
I suspect, though, that my interest in the package here may be different from that of some other commentators, as I am looking at it for its scholarly value, and, based on my theological position and my view of the 10 Commandments and many other passages, am not especially interested in the resources on how to worship before images or become deified, but in the material that has scholarly value for Biblical exegesis and on the history of Christendom.
Thanks.
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KJB1611 said:
Since the Gottingen Septuagint is the standard critical edition of the LXX, leaving it out in a religious tradition that treats the LXX as inspired would be like having a Roman Catholic base package (Verbum) that leaves out, even at its very highest level, the standard critical edition of the Vulgate
The problem with your scenario is assuming there will never be an Orthodox base package higher than Platinum. Maybe they are saving Gottingen Septuagint for a Portfolio package.
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KJB1611 said:
I suspect, though, that my interest in the package here may be different from that of some other commentators, as I am looking at it for its scholarly value, and, based on my theological position and my view of the 10 Commandments and many other passages, am not especially interested in the resources on how to worship before images or become deified, but in the material that has scholarly value for Biblical exegesis and on the history of Christendom.
What you appear to be saying is that you are not interested in an Orthodox package as the Orthodox rarely separate scripture from worship or deification from Bible study. What needs to be understood is that much of Protestant Christianity place the Bible at the center whereas much on the remainder of Christianity places worship at the center because it is in worship that Scripture is the living Word of God not dead inked words on a page. The Eastern/Oriental Church tradition is without a doubt the most holistic thread of Christianity. If you are not interested in Orthodoxy as it is, then the Orthodox packages are not intended for you. You should expect to pick up the resources of interest to you individually or in some base "original languages/manuscripts" type bundle. However, it is perfectly appropriate to express your opinion ... it may well direct Gabe's attention to another market to target.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
it may well direct Gab's attention to another market to target.
Faithlife has already addressed that market with Septuagint Bundle, XL (93 vols.)
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Super.Tramp said:MJ. Smith said:
it may well direct Gab's attention to another market to target.
Faithlife has already addressed that market with Septuagint Bundle, XL (93 vols.)
Coincidentally, I built that bundle too! [:)]
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Dear Mr. Martini,
Thanks for the info. I still wish it was in a base package, though!
Dear M. J. Smith,
Just for your information, I'm not a Protestant, but a Baptist,concerning whom, in the words of a non-Baptist historian: "The Baptists may be considered as the only Christian community that has stood since the days of the apostles, and as a Christian society has preserved pure the doctrine of the Gospel through all the ages."
I also love worship, and think that the Bible is the rule for worship. Because of this, we think that we are not to bow down in front of graven images when doing it.
I thought it would be worth mentioning this because I would not view the characterization made above as accurate, though, I'm sure, this was entirely unintentional.
That is not to say there is not useful stuff for someone with my theological perspective in an Orthodox base package; in every type of base package there is stuff that is useful and stuff that is not so much, but the overall discount frequently makes it worth obtaining.
Thanks.
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Yeah as a former Baptist, that's about as inaccurate as you can get man... PM me if you want to discuss it.
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
these are 15% off across the board.
Thanks for all the work.
Had to copy and paste all of the 'New To Me' items from each package as the 'dots' in the compare all did not copy and paste.
Got Gold and $120 worth of the items not in that set. Plus an Item that is on Pre Pub.
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I had a church history prof (and bear in mind I am SBC here also) say that the trail of tears brings tears of laughter to the eyes of the serious historian.Columbcille Dougherty said:Yeah as a former Baptist, that's about as inaccurate as you can get man... PM me if you want to discuss it.
I understand WHY they hold to it. I disagree with much of what they say, but what we have in common - and perhaps this is true of every tradition. We all on some level have to believe that what we believe is what Christ believed. Else whats the point?L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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abondservant said:
I had a church history prof (and bear in mind I am SBC here also) say that the trail of tears brings tears of laughter to the eyes of the serious historian.
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Trail of blood. It's an old theory that the Church of God has always suffered may l violence and can be traced by the blood of His martyrs... What's ironic is Baptists haven't suffered at all since their formation... Orthodox churches have yet to stop
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Apparently absent from all the ORTHODOX base packages is the ORTHDOX STUDY BIBLE NOTES, something that should be in the starter package on up.
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Welcome to the forums. You realize you are responding to a post nearly a decade old? Not a problem, but also not a very effective way to get you suggestion noticed.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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