Can someone explain this timeline?
as looking at the flood in the timeline and it is suggesting that the flood happened between 6-7000 BC
But don't the bible Genealogies place Adam and Eve at around 4000 BC? Which would make all these other events false?
What are these dates based on?
Edit, there should be a picture, but if not, just search flood in the basic timeline on your app
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Greetings Jon
Jon cody said:I was looking at the flood in the timeline and it is suggesting that the flood happened between 6-7000 BC
Yep I see that too.
Jon cody said:But don't the bible Genealogies place Adam and Eve at around 4000 BC? Which would make all these other events false? What are these dates based on?
Bad logic
Jon cody said:Edit, there should be a picture,
To attach a screen shot etc one needs to use the paperclip or the orange thing to its right.
Jon cody said:just search flood in the basic timeline on your app
I did and by clicking on the entry found the source of the information (believe it or not)!
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thanks, i added the screenshot. There are a lot of events that apparently happened before humans lived according to this timeline.
I saw its coming from some encyclopedia I don't have, and probably wont get if this is what it produces, but I am wondering where that source got its info, as it doesn't line up with what the Bible says in the slightest.0 -
Jon cody said:
But don't the bible Genealogies place Adam and Eve at around 4000 BC? Which would make all these other events false?
You are asking a theological question. I haven't seen the 4000 BC in many years because my reading rarely includes the denominational groups that read the text in this manner.
Jon cody said:as it doesn't line up with what the Bible says in the slightest.
For many, if not most, Christians this is not true. That is why it is a theological/hermeneutical question.
Fortunately, if you click on an event you will find links to the resource(s) providing that date. Click on the timeline element, then on the blue hyperlinked resource to learn why a particular date is shown.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Im not sure why it wouldnt be true.
Here is a chart someone compiled with the dates and references to the verses in which they are derived.
https://viz.bible/visualizing-the-genesis-timeline-from-adam-to-abraham/
I have no idea what Bible you are reading to suggest anything beyond that?0 -
Jon cody said:
Im not sure why it wouldnt be true.
Here is a chart someone compiled with the dates and references to the verses in which they are derived.
https://viz.bible/visualizing-the-genesis-timeline-from-adam-to-abraham/
I have no idea what Bible you are reading to suggest anything beyond that?Whether it's true or not, the Logos forums are not the place to discuss or debate it - please see Forum Guideline #2.
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Jon cody said:
I have no idea what Bible you are reading to suggest anything beyond that?
These forums deliberately stay away from discussions of theology so it would be inappropriate for me to go beyond quoting the Lexham Bible Dictionary:
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Pre-Patriarchal Period
No historical, extrabiblical material exists to date the pre-patriarchal narratives. The Bible begins with the creation of the cosmos (Gen 1:1–2:25), followed by humanity’s fall (Gen 3:1–24), the first murder (Gen 4:1–24), the flood (Gen 6:1–9:25), and the Tower of Babel (Gen 11:1–32). The first chronological details in this period are found in Gen 5 and 7, which trace the genealogical record from Adam to Noah. According to these records, there were 1,656 years between the creation of Adam and the Noahic flood. After the flood, Noah lived 350 more years. There were then 292 years from the birth of Shem’s son, Arpachshad, to the birth of Abram. A total of 1,948 years elapsed from creation to the birth of Abraham (or 3,422 years according to the Septuagint).
The life spans listed during the pre-patriarchal period were lengthy, with Methuselah for example, living nearly 1,000 years (Gen 5:27). The Sumerian king lists also list incredible life spans—as long as 40,000 years for the kings who lived before the flood. Due to difficulties in reconciling these dates, they are often dismissed or reinterpreted. The pre-patriarchal calculation for a year may have been different from that of later biblical history. The numbers could also carry significance other than chronological data.
Kitchen suggests that the ancients were aware of their prehistory, but had insufficient records to describe the span of time. The extended life spans found in the genealogies were a means of filling that gap in time (Kitchen, On the Reliability, 445). He further suggests that, since the Mesopotamian mathematical system had the number 60 as its base, the Sumerian king list might be explained by dividing those numbers by multiples of 60. A multiplication of age could have taken place in the prehistorical genealogies of Genesis. The time spans may also describe the life of the family’s clan rather than the life of the “father” named.
The genealogical records may also be incomplete, as is the case in Matthew’s tracing of Jesus’ genealogy (Matt 1:1–17) when compared with Luke’s (Luke 3:23–38). Omissions are also found when the records of the Pentateuch and historical books are compared with the genealogies of 1 Chr (1 Chr 1:1–9:1).
A. Chadwick Thornhill, “Chronology of the Old Testament,” in The Lexham Bible Dictionary, ed. John D. Barry et al. (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2016).Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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