Logos 11
We are less than a year and a half from the expected release of Logos 11, probably on October 7th or 14th, 2024.
What would you like to see improved?
One of my dreams is a SEPARATE prioritization tool that is easier to use and more organized.
What are yours?
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We are less than a year and a half from the expected release of Logos 11, probably on October 7th or 14th, 2024.
I don't think we'll see Logos 11 in 2024 - we're currently at Logos 24, and it may be Logos 50 (or Logos L 
by then. However, the change to the numbering was made intentionally to uncouple software versions from libraries. This may mean that major library releases won't follow the two-year cycle any longer, but come in other frequencies (maybe yearly?). On the other hand, new software features may come in any release down the road.
One feedback item concerning prioritization (and there may be several of them) is currently ranked #13 in most voted for desktop app: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/prioritize-resources-by-type (noting, that technically prioritization works on indexes not resource types, and said indexes are exposed in the information tool, but not the library - yet. Simply exposing those in the library and having us prioritize by index would be much more straightforward and also prevent current hickups like prioritizing a bible that contains a tiny glossary and thus stealing the priority of a bible dictionary).
If many people can convince FL of their eagerness to have a changed feature and a workable smart solution, it may even come before end of 2024.
Have joy in the Lord! 
We are less than a year and a half from the expected release of Logos 11, probably on October 7th or 14th, 2024.I don't think we'll see Logos 11 in 2024 - we're currently at Logos 24, and it may be Logos 50 (or Logos L
You are totally right - I am still not used to the new version approach. There will never be a Logos 11!
But I assume they will do some major release every two years as they have in the past. They need to so revenue can be generated (not saying that is wrong at all).
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I don't think we'll see Logos 11 in 2024 - we're currently at Logos 24, and it may be Logos 50 (or Logos L
You are totally right - I am still not used to the new version approach. There will never be a Logos 11!
But I assume they will do some major release every two years as they have in the past. They need to so revenue can be generated (not saying that is wrong at all).
My "About Logos" stuff from the program menu shows three iterations: software, feature set, and base package. The software is past 27.x.x now, but the feature set still shows Logos 10, and my base package is lower because I buy resources a la carte and focus on feature packages. So it might be possible to get a major release of Logos 11 Feature Set that may include a package, but still is separate the ongoing software updates.
There are a lot of great suggestions in the Feedback forum, many of which have over 200 votes. I hope those get prioritized! And for everyone here wanting a "prioritization feature" upgrade, there is a request you can upvote here (it's not mine, but I've voted on it).
One of my dreams is a SEPARATE prioritization tool that is easier to use and more organized.
I think you're indeed dreaming. 'Easier'? More organized? Not with current staff.
One thing I've learned over the Logosian years, is don't ask for improvements (smiling). Text Comparison, Advanced Timelines, and many more.
One of my dreams is a SEPARATE prioritization tool that is easier to use and more organized.I think you're indeed dreaming. 'Easier'? More organized? Not with current staff.
One thing I've learned over the Logosian years, is don't ask for improvements (smiling). Text Comparison, Advanced Timelines, and many more.
Wellll.... I don't know about that. I do know that in L9 there was a major discussion about the search in L9 and how it stunk. FL listened and the earch we have now is definitely much improved over L9....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
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Wellll.... I don't know about that. I do know that in L9 there was a major discussion about the search in L9 and how it stunk. FL listened and the earch we have now is definitely much improved over L9....
Probably for most people. I get frustrated at how the (admittedly arcane) search syntax I learned from Logos 4 through 9 doesn't work anymore.
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Probably for most people. I get frustrated at how the (admittedly arcane) search syntax I learned from Logos 4 through 9 doesn't work anymore.
Yes! I wish they both worked. I type the old one, then click the suggested one.
Wellll.... I don't know about that. I do know that in L9 there was a major discussion about the search in L9 and how it stunk. FL listened and the earch we have now is definitely much improved over L9....
After 10+ years, they listened and that's all the search ease you got? Serious? As the forum experts try to untangle the syntax, almost daily.
Wellll.... I don't know about that. I do know that in L9 there was a major discussion about the search in L9 and how it stunk. FL listened and the earch we have now is definitely much improved over L9....
After 10+ years, they listened and that's all the search ease you got? Serious? As the forum experts try to untangle the syntax, almost daily.
As for me.... Search works now where it didn't before... I'm thankful for the little things.... It took my mother many years to raise me... I'm glad she didn't give up... [8-|]
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
Wellll.... I don't know about that. I do know that in L9 there was a major discussion about the search in L9 and how it stunk. FL listened and the earch we have now is definitely much improved over L9....
After 10+ years, they listened and that's all the search ease you got? Serious? As the forum experts try to untangle the syntax, almost daily.
Heβs obviously late to the party and thinks that is actually an improvement, but in reality FL hasnβt been listening. Until they do something about the rudimentary sermon so called βEditorβ which doesnβt βEditβ that much, they havenβt been listening in my book! Hereβs proof that nothing has been done to improve the βsermon editorβ β https://community.logos.com/forums/t/186839.aspx
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To have my prioritized series no longer prioritize the first editions if I own a revised edition.
Auto Dark mode (without having to restart)
Having something other than a "note" file for highlights. It makes me think I've taken a lot more notes than I really have. (If there's a fix for this, please let me know)
I'm sure there are others that I'll think of.
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a more useable Atlas.
I'd really like an option to have a static map of the Holy Land, for example, in which I can find various places without jumping from one map to another.
Something like a static base on which the cities, mountains, etc. would overlay UPON DEMAND, and NOT open a new atlas page each time. It would be great to show and remove current national boundaries, too. This would probably need five or more "base" maps, depending on what portion of Scripture one is searching. I'd like it to simply indicate the places as requested. In this way, I could show Bethel and Haran (for example) in one map without guessing which map might (or not) show what I need. I confess that I use internet tools more often because they are faster and give me what I need, and this seems rather silly.
The internet has gotten better, and now with ChatGPT, well...
I am not sure all the enhancement of tags, "value-added" features, and handfuls of Logos gadgets are as essential as they once were. Some definitely are--but those are done. The vast kinds of books being added recently don't need that stuff. And, I don't want them cluttering my Bible study.
I would say make searching that exists easier so the bulk of searches are better, quicker, and more reliable than ChatGPT et. al. Otherwise, the inevitable will happen.
Make the interface snappier.
Provide useful maps that work.
Spend less time on esoteric searches and tools and resources.
Don't make Logos a more-expensive Amazon. Keep it doing what it has always done best, digging out reliable information from trustworthy resources. Keep Logos about ministry and do not try to make it a profit-hog. Otherwise, it won't be any of that for long.
I am not sure all the enhancement of tags, "value-added" features, and handfuls of Logos gadgets are as essential as they once were. Some definitely are--but those are done. The vast kinds of books being added recently don't need that stuff. And, I don't want them cluttering my Bible study.
Agree
I would say make searching that exists easier so the bulk of searches are better, quicker, and more reliable than ChatGPT et. al. Otherwise, the inevitable will happen.
Agree
Provide useful maps that work.
Strongly agree.
I would say the same thing about the timeline. I recently taught through Ezekiel and Daniel, and ended up making timelines by hand in PowerPoint, because I could not find a way to make a simple, focused, attractive timeline in the Logos tool. (And even if I could, I'm not sure I could have easily exported it into my slide deck.)
Don't make Logos a more-expensive Amazon. Keep it doing what it has always done best, digging out reliable information from trustworthy resources. Keep Logos about ministry and do not try to make it a profit-hog. Otherwise, it won't be any of that for long.
Strongly agree.
...digging out reliable information from trustworthy resources.
You have hit on my main concern with the βchatbotβ revolution of late. While the future may hold a better experience, I find that I cannot trust the information shared. I do not have these concerns when I do my searching within Logos. The search may take a little bit longer, but I trust the legitimacy of the information found. Instead of a quick answer cobbled together from who knows where, I have specific answers from verifiable resources that I can study and then decide on my own what to take as true β or at least, decide what I would like to study further in seeking truth.
So far, the undertaking Logos has made in incorporating AI appears to stay true to this manner of search and study. It is my hope that Logos continues in this vein.
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To stay with the original question... I (me, personally) would like to see...
1. Improvements in Passage Lists... (and before you ask, I'll leave it at that)
2. I hope the "new experimental search" will be more of a help than a "learning function".
3. I think "Cross References" could be broadened in it's scope... and possibility of user being able to have their own "cross reference" file to be incorporated into "Cross References".
4. I would still like to see Logos incorporate "WordSearch ZipScript" into it's Bible Verse Copy.
Edit:
5. I would like to see better tab bar colorization to better denote where the tab bar is in multiple book layouts on screens.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
I would like an option to keep Factbook closed and out of my way.
I do not like your Factbook, Logos. I do not like it at all. It keeps jumping in my way. If I need a fact, I prefer to find it in a resource that I know and trust.
Thankyou , very much.
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I would like an option to keep Factbook closed and out of my way.
I do not like your Factbook, Logos. I do not like it at all. It keeps jumping in my way. If I need a fact, I prefer to find it in a resource that I know and trust.
Thankyou , very much.
Amen and Amen!!!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
Agree with just about all of these suggestions.
My top suggestions are:
1) Rolling Notes, Notebooks, all Document types, and Sermon Editor/Builder into one all-inclusive word processor. Similar to Evernote, OneNote, or another note taking app. None of the current functions or systems would be lost, but it would all be rolled into one place with full word processing capabilities. You can do your Sermons, Clippings, Notes, Passage Lists, Canvas, Diagrams, and all Document types from this one word processing suite. You could even write essays now. Full linking, anchoring, and all other ecosystem features that already exist. Maybe name it Documents or Docs. All you'd have to do is open a new Doc and at the top, select Doc type (Sermon, Note, Diagram, etc.), assign a Notebook (if applicable), assign any Tags and you're good to go. If you've ever used Evernote or OneNote, then you know what I'm talking about. Maybe Logos can contract with one of those companies to build it into Logos? There was/is an entry for something like this on the Feedback site. It was a very popular suggestion.
2) Improvement of Search and AI within Logos. Whether we agree with it or not, AI is here and Logos better move quickly on AI or they will lose users. Besides, I shouldn't have to go to the secular internet or chatbot when we invested a lot of money in a 'powerful' faith based software. Ten years isn't going to cut it with this one. Five years would also be too slow. Maybe Logos can contract with an AI company to improve the Search and AI capabilities within Logos? Maybe a company like XAI? Elon Musk has been very faith friendly and against censoring ideas and speech. Regardless, Logos better move quick on this one.
3) We ought to be able to use SHIFT + ARROW KEYS to move the text selection or highlight. AFAIK, we currently can only move the text selection or highlight with the mouse. Correct me if I'm mistaken here. However, this is a basic function on just about all OS's and software.
There was/is an entry for something like this on the Feedback site. It was a very popular suggestion.
Narrator: And it was the top ranked Feedback item.
https://feedback.logos.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/paper-builder
But, as I mentioned, I don't think it should be yet another separate tool nor should we call it Paper Builder, call it something all inclusive like Documents or Docs.
I would very much like to see AI technology integrated into Logos search capabilities. I.e. I would like to be able to type a sentence like, "give me every instance in my library where fasting is discussed as a topic, rather than just briefly mentioned." I know that there is currently search capabilities such as the Subheadings search that may do something similar, but I feel like there is likely a lot being missed in the search results.
Furthermore, this could also help Logos to sell more resources if this sort of search capability / AI assistant were trained on their store resources as well. If the AI assistant not only pulled up the results to my inquiry from my own library but was also able to tell me what resources that I don't currently own that correspond to my search inquiry, I might be inclined to purchase something that I don't already own.
I would very much like to see AI technology integrated into Logos search capabilities.
This was tested on the web in beta in December(?) as is in the current desktop beta version which is in the 2nd week of a 6 week cycle.
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I, as I am sure others have, have seen and am seeing lots of displeasure, complaints, questions about Search. I'm there also. If there is one single thing that needs to be improved in Logos, in my mind it is the Search and the deleting of Factbook forever.
Having said that... Mark Barnes and crew are working on a "smart search" which is being targeted for vs 32. Dave Hooten pointed this out to me... So we should soon have a better Search. I hope, I hope, I hope!
Good things are coming!! But then, I'm a hopeless optimistic romantic! [8-|]
Edit: Here is the answer Dave Hooten gave... Check Here.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
f there is one single thing that needs to be improved in Logos, in my mind it is the Search and the deleting of Factbook forever.
Why delete Factbook? Strange as it may seem, there are some of us who actually like the Factbook or, at the very least, have no problem with it, and for whom deletion would not be an improvement. If you don't like it or have no use for it, it's easy enough to ignore it by (a) not going directly into the Factbook itself and (b) turning off the Factbook tags (for individual resources or for all books). That seems easy enough, or maybe I'm missing something (often, I am!).
Depending on what I'm working on, I can go days and days without encountering Factbook, which leads me to infer that I can probably ignore it forever if I wanted to, and all without desiring that Logos delete it.
Like you, I am excited about the smart search being tested right now, and the summarization functionality as well; I'm really looking forward to these two features.
... and the deleting of Factbook forever.
Yes! It's like playing dodgeball ... it's all over the place. Until you need it. Then, not. Right-click a monograph ... Factbook's lost in space ... dictionaries work, though. Smart little puppies.
I don't see other users need to be impacted ... just optionalize it. Free up space all over the place.
My dislike is actually theological ... it's late 1900s Christianity packaged to look intelligent. Vs spiritual.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
If there is one single thing that needs to be improved in Logos, in my mind it is the Search and the deleting of Factbook forever.
I use Factbook on occasion, and I like it.
I use Factbook on occasion, and I like it.
Same. I've never understood all the complaints about it getting in the way or popping up constantly. It only comes up when I select it from the toolbar and has never popped up unexpectedly. I've found it to be the most convenient way to start topical studies with all the encyclopedias I have.
Roll the Factbook over to be a tab on Search results.
Volia! Problem solved.
(At least until AI has made Search so powerful that Factbook is embedded in Search results and therefore unnecessary.)
Returning to the OP's topic... (I'm not interested in Factbook and have never really used it, and don't plan to)
Search only goes as far as the content of your library goes. The same could be said for AI... we've seen how the effectiveness of AI grows exponentially when given access to more databases. My hope for Logos 11 is not necessarily feature-related, but is almost entirely library-related. Yes, let's make search and AI more powerful, but to do so Logos needs to get on-board with Cambridge University Press, Orbis Books, Notre Dame University Press, more from Oxford and Yale, and many other publishers FL has not yet had dealings with. Right now it seems like FL is a front for digital sales of Eerdmans/Baker/Wipf&Stock, rather than being an all-around multi-publisher digital platform. Unfortunately for them, this means commitments to the littler guys too--and rethinking strategies that clearly have not been working with, for example, Abingdon and Cambridge. (Would also love to see the Catholic Biblical Quarterly added to the journals! What a broad and deep journal; would love to see what Search/AI can make with all of that.)
My hope for Logos 11 is not necessarily feature-related, but is almost entirely library-related.
Amen, Brother!!
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
My hope for Logos 11 is not necessarily feature-related, but is almost entirely library-related.Amen, Brother!!
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If my fellow Logosians will indulge me, my number one concern about Logos is that it feels more and more like a walled garden in comparison to new developments in personal knowledge management (PKM) and academic research methodologies. Logos is a very nice garden I must hasten to add, but still very walled. In December I brought this up in the following thread. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/220010/1281052.aspx#1281052
I understand that Logos needs to maintain it's proprietary rights to its platform due to copywrites, but currently even the humble Kindle is more interactive with other platforms like Readwise than Logos is. Some of the elements in Logos are already present, such as the ability to export clippings to RTF format and to create deep system links using the L4 button, they just need to be further developed.
What is possible in the future? Check out this workflow created between Zotero and Obsidian. https://medium.com/@alexandraphelan/an-updated-academic-workflow-zotero-obsidian-cffef080addd I suggest that Logos could be at the forefront of academic studies by thinking creatively about how it can interact with other platforms like Obsidian which is increasingly being used by students working on advanced studies.
The power of Logos is clear, but it can be a force multiplier as I curate content from Podcasts using Snipd, Web Articles and YouTube transcripts using Readwise Reader, clippings from Kindle and annotations/citations from Zotero. It would be cool to not forget about advancements in spaced repetition review in platforms like Readwise and Anki.
On the Logos feedback forum, there are votes for a number of these items - including Readwise support. https://feedback.logos.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/send-highlights-to-readwise with 226 votes. It is one of the most voted on items its category ranking 5th, but still 'needs your opinion'.
Logos does not need to then be the best at everything. It just needs to be outstanding at being a stand alone product and also interacting with tools that will always be more advanced in research with other types of content.
I like your thinking although my personal interests are more with tools to be integrated into Logos rather than links to external software e.g. sentence diagrammer, English parser, additional concordance features, n-gram usage ... One consideration, however, is that external links are a comparatively high-cost item in maintenance as your software may fail with changes to the external software. It can also be confusing to the less computer-literate user. So, while I support your basic concept, I need to be convinced that its implementation is Logos is well designed rather than thrown together.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
I like your thinking although my personal interests are more with tools to be integrated into Logos rather than links to external software e.g. sentence diagrammer, English parser, additional concordance features, n-gram usage ... One consideration, however, is that external links are a comparatively high-cost item in maintenance as your software may fail with changes to the external software. It can also be confusing to the less computer-literate user. So, while I support your basic concept, I need to be convinced that its implementation is Logos is well designed rather than thrown together.
I believe we are probably in violent agreement here. The implementation of any operability would need to be done well. There are plenty of things that need to be completed or improved in the existing Logos toolbox.
I think though the issue might be philosophical in the design or priority in the development of Logos, as opposed to technical.
Personally, I moved years ago from using proprietary formats for note taking, using initially RTF and now MarkDown. I still do note taking in Logos when it is necessary to get the most out of Logos, but my curation and writing is done elsewhere to accommodate the collection of material from other resources that will never be in Logos. Why? Logos is too limiting and is a walled garden, which I think is becoming more obvious as time goes on. So here are three possible canaries in the coal mine:
1. For years we have asked for there to be the ability to import PDFs into Logos. A lot of resources that are not in Logos are often in this format (i.e. journal articles).
2. For years we have asked for there to be the ability to view our personal books on the mobile app. This feature is the number one requested item in its category in the feedback forum, with 447 votes.
3. For years we have asked for there to be something in the toolbox for writing papers, which at its best, might make it easier to put Logos in the centre of your writing workflow. This again is number one in its category the feedback forum, with 363 votes.
I am not being critical. I love Logos. What I am trying to make a case for is the management of knowledge and information in studying the Bible in expanded ways. In my view, the Bible Software market is in need for new innovation. I wonder if the next stage of development is seeing these massive libraries of quality resources, forming the foundation for studies on a much broader scale?
Obviously this is my use case, so I appreciate the indulgence in this free exchange of ideas.
I like your thinking although my personal interests are more with tools to be integrated into Logos rather than links to external software e.g. sentence diagrammer, English parser, additional concordance features, n-gram usage ... One consideration, however, is that external links are a comparatively high-cost item in maintenance as your software may fail with changes to the external software. It can also be confusing to the less computer-literate user. So, while I support your basic concept, I need to be convinced that its implementation is Logos is well designed rather than thrown together.
I believe we are probably in violent agreement here. The implementation of any operability would need to be done well. There are plenty of things that need to be completed or improved in the existing Logos toolbox.
I think though the issue might be philosophical in the design or priority in the development of Logos, as opposed to technical.
Personally, I moved years ago from using proprietary formats for note taking, using initially RTF and now MarkDown. I still do note taking in Logos when it is necessary to get the most out of Logos, but my curation and writing is done elsewhere to accommodate the collection of material from other resources that will never be in Logos. Why? Logos is too limiting and is a walled garden, which I think is becoming more obvious as time goes on. So here are three possible canaries in the coal mine:
1. For years we have asked for there to be the ability to import PDFs into Logos. A lot of resources that are not in Logos are often in this format (i.e. journal articles).
2. For years we have asked for there to be the ability to view our personal books on the mobile app. This feature is the number one requested item in its category in the feedback forum, with 447 votes.
3. For years we have asked for there to be something in the toolbox for writing papers, which at its best, might make it easier to put Logos in the centre of your writing workflow. This again is number one in its category the feedback forum, with 363 votes.
I am not being critical. I love Logos. What I am trying to make a case for is the management of knowledge and information in studying the Bible in expanded ways. In my view, the Bible Software market is in need for new innovation. I wonder if the next stage of development is seeing these massive libraries of quality resources, forming the foundation for studies on a much broader scale?
Obviously this is my use case, so I appreciate the indulgence in this free exchange of ideas.
Amazing - you hit on almost every limitation I've noticed. I used Logos heavily from version 4/5-7 and stopped for a few years right around or before 8 was released. When I upgraded to Logos 10 last year, I was pleasantly surprised in the improvements. It was more dramatic after not using it for a few years and a few versions. That said, while notes have become better, they are limited. I also hate that you can't exclude highlighting/markup from specific versified resources. For example, I would love if markup carried over to my other Bible and most other versified resources. However, I do NOT want it to markup my exegetical and critical commentaries. It's somewhat of an annoyance to have 20 pages of a technical commentary marked up the same as my Bibles. Two different types of resources. One in convenient - the another annoying and difficult on the eyes. I've stopped using any sort of markup by verse because of this and, instead, carefully highlight within the verse. This is obviously far less convenient and then doesn't carry over to other Bibles.
On the notes. It seems they've gotten somewhat better between the versions I was absent, but still not amazing. There's a lot of room for improvement there. I do use them frequently on mobile--but, I limit my usage strictly to Bibles for the most part. I have used them for lecture/class notes, but it just leaves a lot to be desired. I'm torn on it, because I committed to moving everything theology/devotional related into Logos many years ago, but there are just still some limitations.
I brought up how great it would be to be able to import PDF's to another student two weeks ago. Primarily, because of journals. I have the Galaxy library subscription--which is great, but I still frequently need to check EBSCO or JSTOR for the most uptodate journal entries. The other usage I was thinking of for PDFs, is occasionally, we'll get a PDF as part of an assignment.
Speaking of EBSCO/JSTOR - another great feature (that relates to putting Logos at the center of the workflow as an all-in-one solution) would be if you could authenticate your JSTOR/EBSCO account in Logos and have it add the any journal results found to your Logos search. Both JSTOR and EBSCO have search APIs making integration relatively simple. Understand it would be limited in the search capacity, since it's not a fully tagged resource, but I just glanced over the API documentation and it does support metadata searches.
Re: personal books - if you mean the books in your physical library, that might get tricky due to licensing. What's to stop someone from stopping by their local seminary library and scanning everything into their physical library. If that's what the request is for, I'd guess it's potentially a licensing issue. I do like the new physical library features and how incorporates into search. That's atleast a time saver.
The ability to write papers in Logos would be huge. I switched to primarily using Google Docs in my time away from Logos. One of my greatest annoyances is that auto citations/footnotes seem to just not work for Google docs. It should - Docs supports a hotkey/keyboard shortcut to create a citation, so theoretically, it should be easy for them to add support. My guess is, that Microsoft and Google use a different shortcut/variable in the data passed/pasted. But this could be easily remedied by creating a new master setting option to specify your preferred word-processor application. Similar to specifying your specific citation style.
Overall I love Logos and wouldn't trade it for anything else out there. It saves an enormous amount of time in seminary and personal study. But there's definitely still room to improve and smooth out general user workflow (things like incorporating JSTOR/EBSCO search if you have credentials and perhaps adding a workflow) and some of the functionality around core features (like notes and supporting Google Docs--especially since Google Docs has surpassed Microsoft Word interms of percentage of market share).
How do I sign up to use the Beta?
How do I sign up to use the Beta?
Details are at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/52967.aspx - but please do note the warnings in that post.
At this point in the year (April 2024), we already have some previews of what's coming to Logos "11" (intelligent search by AI, summary and insights panels, and the application and illustration panel in the sermon builder).
However, nothing else new has appeared so far in terms of polishing and simplifying the interface and usability (apart from smart search).
I believe that Logos has suffered from an overload of data and functions over the last 10 years and it is urgent to make it all talk to each other and integrate in a simple way. More often means less and less means more.
I'd like to see some things in terms of polishing:
(1) A cleaner interface like at the time of Logos 4. I remember that the first time I saw Logos 4 I thought it was fantastic because I came from Libronix 3 which was very polluted and confusing. But over the last 10 years Logos has added more and more buttons to the top bar (now on the vertical left) without giving us the option of removing the buttons we don't use. The option to delete these buttons would be welcome.
(2) Better group the book navigation buttons into one or two horizontal bars without creating more and more. For example, the auto-translation panel has too many horizontal bars taking up precious space and polluting everything. Check out this suggestion in Feedback and vote if you think it's good: link.
(3) Have the option to hide the horizontal navigation bar and buttons etc. from the books/resources. Microsoft's Office programs today all have this option, allowing you to hide the "ribbon" and leave only the tab visible. When you need something, just click on the tab and the ribbon appears. This would make the Logos cleaner and save space. See also this in Feedback Feedback.
(4) Have a more efficient sermon builder. The sermon text builder is very limited in terms of formatting. For example: it doesn't have line and paragraph spacing options like Microsoft Word and the fonts and colors are very limited.
(5) Have a more efficient notepad. The text builder here is also very limited in terms of formatting as in the sermon builder. And it could implement markdown format like the one used in the Obsidian software. See this idea in the Forum and in Feedback for discussion and voting.
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"... And do not be grieved, for the joy of the LORD is your strength." (Ne 8.10)
I long to see a Restoration Movement package of some sort.
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
They could do that apart from a major version release. I am surprised that they haven't yet as it is a sizable segment of the Body of Christ.
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