Logos 10 Getting Slower or more taxing on CPU/RAM?

Steven Alvey
Steven Alvey Member Posts: 3
edited November 21 in English Forum

Version 32.1.31

TLDR; QUESTION AT BOTTOM.

Hey folks, a good while back (maybe a year or so?) when I updated to Logos 10, I recall that it was as quick as a whip.  Super fast.  Booting up, loading, switching between bibles (with multiple resources to a link set), etc etc.  Mind-blowing speeds (so I left a 5-star review for it).

But lately (in the last month or so at least) I have noticed that anytime I try to switch between resources or even between tabs within a window, it back to the old days again: my computer starts getting REALLY loud, and it has to think for 5-8 seconds before it switches between tabs or before a hyperlink click leads to the appropriate resource being opened (or even switched to if it's already opened as a tab in a window somewhere).  (the AMD CPU and the GPU and the RAM are all literally the best and newest that money could buy about 13 months ago... as in I'm a game developer with Unreal Engine 5 and literally have the highest-tech components) 

In other words, it seems like things have gone back to the way they were before I upgraded from Logos 9 to Logos 10... slow, sluggish, and resource heavy.  

QUESTIONS:
Has anyone else noticed this recently?
Or is anyone aware of anything I can do to resolve this and make it lightening fast like it was back when I first upgraded to Logos 10?
Does anyone know which systems/components Logos tends to hod/use, e.g. CPU vs RAM vs GPU?  (I'm sure it's prolly not GPU, but I understand that GPU involvement in computation lately has been changing over the last 2 years or so, so just curious).
Could it be hard drive fullness?  (It's on an M.2 PCI SSD so should be the fastest "drive" available).
Could it be the fact that I bought the "extra-biblical greek philosophy library with like a billion resources? (prolly not that since they're never opened and I don't use them, shouldn't cause a long loud delay when switching from an RSV tab to a KJV tab... but IDK)
Has anyone noticed a maximum number of open tabs that can be linked to a "link set" (e.g A, B, etc) without it getting sluggish?

Anyway, if anyone has any ideas or suggestions please let me  know.  Thanks!

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,436

    Hi Steven

    Welcome to the forums, here you will find users like yourself who can often help with questions and advice.

    Could it be hard drive fullness?  (It's on an M.2 PCI SSD so should be the fastest "drive" available).

    It may well be 'hard drive fullness' how much free space do you have on the drive?

    Could it be the fact that I bought the "extra-biblical greek philosophy library with like a billion resources?

    Only if downloading those resources actually pushed the SSD to close to full.

    Has anyone noticed a maximum number of open tabs that can be linked to a "link set" (e.g A, B, etc) without it getting sluggish?

    Not here but if that even comes on the horizon as possibility then a rethink of workflow is called for. Mentally that cannot be efficient.

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    Mike

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    Hi Steven

    One thing worth checking.

    In Logos Program Settings do you have Enable Hardware Acceleration set to Yes?

    Graham

  • Garrell Calton
    Garrell Calton Member Posts: 71 ✭✭

    Graham, why is this even an option.  I for the life of me cannot think of anyone who would want their hardware to run slow.  That’s just my two cents!!!

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,983

    why is this even an option.  I for the life of me cannot think of anyone who would want their hardware to run slow.

    I think there was (possibly even still is) an issue with some graphic drivers. It comes down to the point that all relevant components within the box need to interact and to be able to function at that accelerated mode. This also affected other programs, not just Logos. 

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Steven Alvey
    Steven Alvey Member Posts: 3

    Thanks everyone.  Tried hardware acceleration.  Tried reducing the amount of stuff on my SSD drive (by like 35-40%).  Tried reducing the number of open windows/resources to just a half dozen.  Tried reducing the number of linked items in a link set to just a few.   

    Nothing works. [:(]

    The program is just running slow in all cases, taking way to long to do things like switch tabs or drag a window/tab into a new position, etc etc and makes my PC sound like it's a 747 preparing for take-off.   

    Very weird, as it was super fast back when Logos 10 first dropped.  

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭

    Good timing. I too am experiencing the same slowness. This is a very recent development. I haven't tweeked anything anywhere. I even hid some resources that I will not use in the future hoping that would give me the speed I had before in all things Logos, but to no avail.

    mm. 

    Thanks everyone.  Tried hardware acceleration.  Tried reducing the amount of stuff on my SSD drive (by like 35-40%).  Tried reducing the number of open windows/resources to just a half dozen.  Tried reducing the number of linked items in a link set to just a few.   

    Nothing worksSad

    The program is just running slow in all cases, taking way to long to do things like switch tabs or drag a window/tab into a new position, etc etc and makes my PC sound like it's a 747 preparing for take-off.   

    Very weird, as it was super fast back when Logos 10 first dropped.  

  • Steven Alvey
    Steven Alvey Member Posts: 3

    Yeah... I'm wondering if it was caused by me adding that giant library of non-biblical greek language stuff (greek philosophy etc).  I know that was biggish and I wonder if it's being factored in actively by Logos' brain in the background.  If you "hide" a resource, does that tell Logos to also ignore its existence in terms of background process etc?  

  • Gary Osborne
    Gary Osborne Member Posts: 325 ✭✭

    I'm also experiencing slowness. Was humming until the last week or so (usually open within 5 seconds). Now takes over 30 seconds to load up upon opening. 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,442

    Many of the times I've had slow startups, a visual filter was to blame. Look for visual filters across multiple books or across the entire bible that are opened in the startup layout. My library is > 50,000 which I have not found to be a problem. Indexing failure and disk failure have also (rarely) caused slowness for me.

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  • Pastor Michael Huffman
    Pastor Michael Huffman Member Posts: 449

    I do not even have an advanced tab in my program settings. 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,779

    Tried reducing the amount of stuff on my SSD drive (by like 35-40%). 

    How much free space do you have?  When was it last Optimised (Windows Settings > type Defrag).

    What does the SSD manufacturer's Toolbox tell you about the drive?

    Dave
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  • John Bunker
    John Bunker Member Posts: 19
  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    I do not even have an advanced tab in my program settings. 

    Are you on Mac? 

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