BUG: Search fail
I was testing a clause search (which I know can't be used in a filter) for Highlight Jesus' Actions - Logos Forums and my first results were a big fat fail:
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The "big fat fail" isn't immediately obvious to me from the image.
There's a known bug in the Analysis view that stops the grouping column from being shown in "Drag a column here to group", even though grouping is being applied. Drag a second column up there, then both columns will be shown and you can remove the unwanted grouping.
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Look at the Reference column. Do the results look reasonable?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Look at the Reference column. Do the results look reasonable?
I'd seen it earlier and wondered how 2825 combinations was possible.
Dave
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I put in the search you indicated and got the exact same grouping you did. Then I followed the instructions Bradley gave, which revealed a hidden grouping by reference.
Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:There's a known bug in the Analysis view that stops the grouping column from being shown in "Drag a column here to group", even though grouping is being applied. Drag a second column up there, then both columns will be shown and you can remove the unwanted grouping.
I think this is entirely explained by that known bug.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Andrew Batishko said:Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
There's a known bug in the Analysis view that stops the grouping column from being shown in "Drag a column here to group", even though grouping is being applied. Drag a second column up there, then both columns will be shown and you can remove the unwanted grouping.
I think this is entirely explained by that known bug.
As stated, the known bug relates to the grouping column (Reference) not being shown.
When that grouping is removed, and the results are sorted by reference, the proper count for Mk 1:29 can be deduced..
If I group by Reference, the count of 2825 re-appears.This problem does not occur in Bible Search > Analysis.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
If I group by Reference, the count of 2825 re-appears.
When you have no grouping in Analysis view, it deduplicates the results (by displaying multiple values in a single cell) as much as possible.
Once you add a grouping (or start with one that's not shown due to the known bug), the full "cross product" of all combinations of all values from the displayed columns is shown. This is intentional, to allow drilling down and grouping by any possible column. You can decrease the number of combinations that are shown by turning off individual columns (that contain multiple values, and that you don't wish to have affect the counts).
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Either way, it makes a mess when trying to show a user how to highlight verbs in which Jesus is the subject/actor
- well, it requires a clause search which can't be converted to a filter
- well, you could pretend the highlighting from the search was a visual filter
- well, that doesn't really work it you last clause search had the wrong attributes
- hey, but if you use this work around...
- except for the times when there is extraneous highlighting between two verbs
- well no, active vs. stative verbs can't quite be done here (I'm not sure of this)
- sure you could list each potential verb and kinda manage to build a morphological search to make a filter
Yes, you can say that is not exactly how my attempt to answer a user's question went ... but it seemed even worse.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
This is intentional, to allow drilling down and grouping by any possible column. You can decrease the number of combinations that are shown by turning off individual columns (that contain multiple values, and that you don't wish to have affect the counts).
Unfortunately, some update turned on over 100 column each of which requires reopening the list to remove the next option. Your answer may be accurate but the tool is unuseable until all the columns are reset.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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